[ SECRET POST #2069 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2069 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Important: I'm really sorry about this, but I accidentally clicked the wrong thing and deleted the submission post from last week instead of saving it. Managed to save the first page (25) of secrets, but the rest (a bit over 100) are gone.

If you submitted something last week (Aug 26-Sept 1), please resubmit it here and it will still go up this week.

The submissions post for next week is linked below as usual.

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #296.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

LOL. Dude, you don't care about Loki. A whole lot of other people disagree. I care about him because I think he makes a good antagonist.

It seems really weird to me that you're assuming that Loki having anything going on other than being Evil (tm) would somehow distract from the rest of the characters. It's an ensemble cast and they manage to keep all of the characters fairly nuanced and give them all unique motivations. If Loki's involved at all - and he will be, the actor is signed on for at least three more films - he'll have motivation as well. That doesn't turn it into The Loki Movie any more than Lando having motivation for betraying Han and Leia and Chewie made Empire into the Lando Movie.

[(Anonymous)]

It would distract from the rest of the characters because he was the principal villain of the last movie. If he were introduced, betrayed the Avengers, and given motivation all in the same movie? THAT would be interesting. But Loki is not Lando. He's not a minor character. A plotline like this would either be a) a pointless minor subplot that really ruins a lot of the meaning of The Avengers for no good reason with no character development, or b) a big major subplot that annoyingly distracts people from the Avengers' subplots by forcing them to look at a villain being a villain but not fighting the Avengers for copious amounts of time.

I'm not saying this idea completely lacks merit, but it makes for a far better fanfic than a canonical movie.

[(Anonymous)]

TBH, I felt like Avengers was crammed full as it was. Going into Loki being under the influence of the Chitauri and explaining why it might be different for him vs. with Clint, it just feels like it would have been too much. But they could lay some subtext footwork for it and play around with the concept later on. I don't see it as violating anything within the Avengers itself, but then I'm fond of reveals that cause the audience to rewatch what came before with a new eye. *shrug*

I don't see it distracting people about why a villain isn't being a villain either. The cliched thing is for the estranged brother to reconcile and become a ~part of the team, right? Most people would expect that and not expect Loki to turn on them in the end. I give people enough credit to not get confused about a villain wanting to use the good guys against a third party.

I mean, I'm not hugely attached to the idea either. If I'm wrong about it, it's not like I'm going to go sobbing into my Cheerios or anything. I think it would add something, but other people are free to disagree.

[(Anonymous)]

What? *shudder* Why would Loki become part of the team? Ew, god, that would be utterly godawful and I'd HATE that. No way would any of the team ever forgive him or work with him, not after killing so many people, and especially not after what he did to Clint and to Coulson. I don't see what's wrong with Loki either staying evil and only dealing with Thor, or redeeming himself sans mind-control and still only dealing with Thor. After all, he didn't really give a shit about the Avengers did he? It was all "Ant. Boot." and he only fucked around with them to further his own ends and to hurt Thor.

[(Anonymous)]

I think you missed the point of my comment, dude. I was saying that's the cliched thing that audiences tend to expect, especially if Loki was mind controlled. My whole deal all along has been that I wanted Loki to be mind controlled but still be a bad guy.

Loki might be willing to use the Avengers as a tool to get revenge and I can see the Avengers taking the uneasy "enemy of my enemy is my friend enemy that I'll deal with later" option. Loki using them but then turning around and backstabbing them afterward is what I was going for, not Loki being a true member of the team.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, yeah, sorry, I was kind of going on a tangent there. :)

I think that's a cool story actually, but I seriously doubt it's ability to work in a film franchise. It sounds like it would make a much better comic book arc.

[(Anonymous)]

Tangents are cool, I was just confused. :D

I've no idea if it's possible to do it in a film but I've been pleasantly surprised by these guys before. Plus the wank! The epic, endless wank! It would piss off the woobie!Loki fans and the woobie!Loki haters at the same time. They'd both be wrong. I'm just evil enough to find that appealing in its own right.

But I'd be cool with it in a comic, too. Just not anytime soon, hopefully, since I'm really enjoying kid!Loki!

[(Anonymous)]

I've no idea if it's possible to do it in a film but I've been pleasantly surprised by these guys before. Plus the wank! The epic, endless wank! It would piss off the woobie!Loki fans and the woobie!Loki haters at the same time. They'd both be wrong. I'm just evil enough to find that appealing in its own right.

Me too! I can't wait for the popcorn party to start 8D

[(Anonymous)]

I think you missed the point of my comment, dude. I was saying that's the cliched thing that audiences tend to expect,

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LOL. Dude, no one but Loki fans could expect Loki to end up working with the team, and find it cliched.

The rest of the audience would go "WTF?!"