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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-01 03:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2069 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2069 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-02 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
IDK he seemed pretty happy to be trololololing Steve, Tony, and Thor. He could have up and vanished at any point during that whole deal but instead he got them fighting because that's what he wanted right then.

But why get them to all meet up to begin with unless that was also a plan? He could have just vanished instead of agreeing to go into custody in Germany. I don't really think it was about Bruce because Bruce was totally unnecessary to his ultimate plan. He failed at psyching out Natasha but tbh I don't think she succeeded in manipulating him either. Loki's "...what" echoed my own because she drew her conclusion from nothing. And it turned out to be meaningless, too.

You could be right and Joss just wasn't thinking about it but Joss is pretty well known for giving his villains nuance and layers. He's also pretty well known for making his villains smart, or at the very least, really effective. If Loki was just doing the cliche villain thing, it would be going against Joss' usual tendency.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-09-02 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Oh I dunno, seeing Loki *think* he was being all Hannibal Lecter-ish and smart and manipulative and genre-savvy and putting on the impression that he was totally BAMF and scary and competent and dangerous, only for him to start epically failing halfway through the movie and continue to epically fail by underestimating everyone based on how much they sucked as a team at first every time he tried to reassert himself and winding up as just another pathetic supervillain was half the satisfaction of the film for me, tbqh.

I would've been bummed if Loki was as lame and stupid as he ultimately was in the Avengers had the plot been different or had he been going head-to-head with a single superhero, but in the Avengers? The Avengers wasn't really a "hero vs villain" story. It was a "hero vs hero being totally ineffective against villain -> all heroes vs villain who is actually no match for them" story. The "archenemy" of the heroes wasn't Loki, it was themselves. The story was them overcoming themselves — overcoming their conflicts with each other and overcoming SHIELD trying to control them and lead them around by their noses — in order to save the world (which wouldn't have needed saving if SHIELD and they themselves hadn't been proving the human race worthy of notice by alien races). Narratively speaking, Loki was more of a catalyst than a villain.