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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-01 03:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2069 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2069 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-02 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, not really. I think you're really oversimplifying it. Sure, some people are more likely to believe in gods when they don't know shit about science. But to some people, a higher power simply makes more sense than one not existing. Some of the most educated scientific minds believe in a higher power. As the industrial revolution came along, there was a whole school of thought that didn't reject it, but also did not reject god - thus: deism.

To some people god is only an answer to a question, and it is easier to not believe in god when your main questions are answered. To others, god seems to exist even when many of the questions are answered. I don't know if there is a god or not. I just think you're really wrong in presupposing what people believe and why. I think some people naturally tend toward disbelief, others naturally toward belief.

There are some people who, no matter how much they learn, how many of their questions about the world aren't answered, that has no bearing on their belief in god. Because they believe god to be a thing that exists outside of the illusions of linear time and separate matter that we are currently in. Many religious people believe that as much as you learn about this world, you will never be able to learn about the next world. To some God is tied to this world, gods existance or lack thereof answering questions in this world, in others eyes, they are by definition separate things.

I'm not doing an amazing job of explaining this and I'm not even pro religion or anything. I just think you are massively oversimplifying the reasons people believe or disbelieve things, and because of that you really can't paint either atheism or theism as the default position. it depends on the individual and their psychology


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[personal profile] gobbledigook 2012-09-02 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Some of the most educated scientific minds believe in a higher power.

Hmm. I don't see any particular merit in giving certain beliefs credit because smart people believe in them. I'm sure there were great minds that believed the Earth was the center of the universe at some point, but what's true is true regardless of whether it's a belief held by a intelligent person or not.

I think some people naturally tend toward disbelief, others naturally toward belief.

This is probably true, yeah. But I'm usually suspect of the whole "God as an answer" thing because it usually works like finding excuses as to how things we know link back to gods and their powers, even when a higher power isn't really needed for it to make sense.

I'm not doing an amazing job of explaining this and I'm not even pro religion or anything. I just think you are massively oversimplifying the reasons people believe or disbelieve things, and because of that you really can't paint either atheism or theism as the default position. it depends on the individual and their psychology

(: It's ok, I understand your point of view. I personally think these matters are better dealt with as much simplicity as you can, and I guess that includes realizing that sometimes arguing about it is just kind of useless.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-02 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
You make a good point about "God as the answer." I guess I also have a suspicion that certain religious beliefs may be based less in "I need an answer" and more in "I need a purpose"/"I can't stand the thought of being alone in life/death." I think it can often be based around a fear of death. That's what I meant when I brought up scientific individuals. Not to give their beliefs more merit, but to suggest there are psychological reasons beyond unanswered questions. I think I get what you mean though.