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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-03 03:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #2071 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2071 ⌋

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[personal profile] pts 2012-09-03 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Walt's been irredeemable for several seasons now.

However, here his irredeemability was front and center. At least with poisoning Brock, he did it off screen. But here Mike a) shows commendable loyalty to his former comrades by refusing to sell them out, and b) calls Walt out for being a total fucking liability, which is completely accurate.

Walt decides to kill Mike because he's angry. Killing him accomplished nothing (and will ultimately make things much harder for him when Jesse finds out) but he did it because he was angry and he wanted to do it.

People who've excused Walt's shitty behavior in the past as being founded in rationality would've had a hard time with his killing Mike in this way, since his actions came from totally unfounded self-righteous anger and lacked any kind of rationale, save the fact that in that moment he just really wanted to shoot Mike.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-03 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Thing is, the whole thing wouldn't have escalated to where it got if Mike and Gus hadn't tried to off Walter, for what, saving Jesse and killing some scumbag dealers who had killed a child before? And prior to that Walter had tried to prevent the situation by going to Gus for help.

A lot of things Walt can be blamed on but really...what was he supposed to do? Let Gus kill him?
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[personal profile] pts 2012-09-03 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Walt's problems with Gus were ultimately all of his own making, whether or not he had good reasons for doing the things he did at the time. And certainly by the time Walt killed Mike, he was so morally compromised that there's no reading of the text, I feel, that lets him off the hook for the way things went down.

Walt wants everything to be on his terms, because he thinks he's better and smarter than everyone else around him.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-03 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Things would have gone down bad regardless.

Jesse wanted to kill the drug dealers, Walt tried to prevent it by going to Gus and having him straighten things out. That didn't work, Jesse still went after them, and then Walt came in.

Walt tried to make the best of a bad situation that he was put into by the actions of others. Gus forced his hand at the end. So Mike doesn't have much to stand on in blaming Walt for how things ultimately went down. Walt was more than happy to continue being Gus's cook.