[ SECRET POST #2073 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #2073 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[MCR/Killjoys]


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[Stephen Merchant]


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[Mobile Suit Gundam]


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[Lord of the Rings]


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[Eureka]


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[Zeta Gundam]


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[Game of Thrones]


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[Hannibal Lecter]


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Notes:

Important: I'm really sorry about this, but I accidentally misclicked and deleted the submission post from last week instead of saving it. Managed to save the first page (25) of secrets, but the rest (about 100 or so) are gone.

If you submitted something last week (Aug 26-Sept 1), please resubmit it here.

The submissions post for next week is below as usual.

Secrets Left to Post: ?? pages, ??? secrets from Secret Submission Post #296.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[morieris]

Was there a time when fandom was not crazy? I'm curious now....

[(Anonymous)]

Wondering this too. I've heard thigh-slapping tales of ridiculously pissy fights conducted via fanzine.

[(Anonymous)]

No. Only times when individuals didn't see the crazy, weren't exposed to it, or were so deep in it themselves that it didn't register.

[elaminator]

Yea...I doubt it.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know if I was just unaware of the crazy or if it didn't exist, but when I first got involved in fandom way back when it was a pretty chill place. It was also a lot smaller.

[(Anonymous)]

Fandom crazy has always existed but I think it used to be a little easier to shelter yourself from it.

But regardless of the year I always find smaller fandoms = nicer fandoms. Small fandoms are really hard to keep active because when members leave it's hard to get anyone to replace them, but it's so much easier keeping the peace in small fandoms where people know each other.

[(Anonymous)]

This. Fandom has become a land of masses, via LJ/Twitter/Dreamwidth.

Whereas in the mid-90s, even into the early 2000s, it was split up into much smaller communities. It was usually easy to find a message board or yahoo group that was small, tailored to what you wanted, and generally of the same maturity level. If you wanted drama and flailing, you could find that. If you wanted calm, rational, deep discussions, there were places for that. If you wanted to debate the finer points about whether Heero Yui was toast or not, you could do that. It was basically cliques, yes, but it made the general map of fandom seem less crazy since you were with people who had similar purposes to your own, instead of everyone in the same place.

[(Anonymous)]

Obviously not a Doctor Who fan.

[(Anonymous)]

It was just a lot easier to stay in one little corner back then. Small bits of fandom taken isolation tend to be either laid-back and awesome, or concentrated crazy. It's just that now the concentrated crazy is more likely to be visible even to people in the quiet corners.

[cakemage]

No, never. It has always been thus.

[(Anonymous)]

No. There were batshit SJW crusaders, up to and including fake deaths and people getting banned from cons, in the 1930s (and if you post about it, there are people who have still google alerts on those fannish names and will still try to wank about it.)

19th century Dickens fandom was even crazier, from what I understand, and then you get the people who were into multi-volume novels in the 18th century...

[veronica_rich]

Now I want to know about fannish conventions in the 1930s. What did they fanwank over? Sherlock Holmes? Jules Verne? The homoeroticism of the movie "Wings?" :-D

[(Anonymous)]

Originally '30s fandom qua fandom was about science fiction short story magazines and novels but by the time they were actually doing large conventions, AFAICT they were mostly wanking about fandom itself and had largely stopped caring about what was actually in the pro magazines.

As you do.

(At least the BNFs. There was a contingent of newer fans around that time who were starting new zines for the purpose of actually talking about SF though, because they were sick of what was going on with the dysfunction in the established fandom, and then organized fandom sort of paused for WWII and rebooted itself after.)

Fandom Up To Now http://efanzines.com/UpToNow/ is a wonderfully hilarious book-length wank report from 1939, although it ends before the events in the fandom_wank post listed above (although warning, that's the personalities people are apparently still wanking about now.)

[veronica_rich]

HAHA that is awesome. I will have to keep this in my Inbox and look it up when I have time later. It is heartening that in the midst of Depression, people still had the energy to care about these things, LOL. (I'm not criticizing them; we do the same thing now. Make-believe probably becomes MORE important in bad times.)

[ecoerrante]

Way late, but there was a huge mass of fandom in the...1800's? I think, when Doyle decided to kill off Sherlock. Like...huge groups of people started writing fanfiction, and harassing him to bring Sherlock back and it was just crazy from what I've read about it.

So, not exactly conventions, but I'm betting some people totally got thrown out of their local group[s] for not sharing the same viewpoints ='D

[(Anonymous)]

Heh, I'll match your bet ;)

[brandiweed.livejournal.com]

No. No there wasn't. (http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1087998.html)

[brandiweed.livejournal.com]

Aside: the link that didn't activate is to a fandom_wank entry about 1930s fandom (as per the anon above me). Choice stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

...yeah, that was the wank that got [editor of a major SF book imprint] commenting out of the blue on AO3 to tell me how wrong I was and that I should read some more posts by her side before I dare say anything because they have been unfairly misrepresented in the literature and the other side was more immature and....

IT WAS SEVENTY YEARS AGO AND YOU WEREN'T BORN YET AND THIS IS A SILLY CAPTAIN AMERICA FIC STOP WANKING ALREADY.

And then there's The Algebra Problem: http://www.merrycoz.org/papers/online/online.htm . Because there's nothing like a fannish message board from the 1860s where the mods have to make a strict rule that it's off-limits to bring whether somebody is Union or Confederate into their epic years-long argument about a logic puzzle.

[brandiweed.livejournal.com]

[reads The Algebra Problem]

HAHAHAHA OH WOW

This is great stuff.

[veronica_rich]

No, but there was a time when the dangerous crazies (stalkers, deliberate shit-stirrers, etc.) were criticized by the majority and *maybe* made to question their actions instead of getting virtual pats on the back and encouraged to keep on keeping on.

[(Anonymous)]

I *think* the secret sender might be referring to how it's crazy. It seems like fandom's more meta these days - you have anonymous memes, you have youtube musicals, stuff like that. When I was in fandoms back in the day, there were shipwars and crazy meetups where people would dress up and stuff, but it was still restricted to certain circles, and the "real world" barely noticed. Now it's almost cool to like some of the new fandom stuff, and just anyone can join in, which makes the crazy a bit crazier.

I hope this makes sense...? (Sorry for the anon btw, I forget my DW password.)