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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-07 07:01 pm

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[personal profile] unicornherds 2012-09-07 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry. :(

I actually find the idea that I will some day cease to exist really relieving and motivating.

But honestly, this one dude has no more proof than anyone else about what happens after we die. If the idea of an afterlife is comforting to you, you go ahead and believe in an afterlife (if you can - I know belief isn't that easy to turn on and off).
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[personal profile] inkdust 2012-09-07 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
This.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2012-09-08 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
I actually find the idea that I will some day cease to exist really relieving and motivating.

Might I ask why?

[personal profile] unicornherds 2012-09-08 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Motivating - because it drives home to me that what I do in this life matters. My philosophy is that the only purpose in my life is to somehow make a difference - small or large. There is no afterlife goal or reincarnation to try again, this is it. It's all I've got and I've got to make the most of it. Also, the only way to life forever is to make something of yourself in the life you've got.

Relieving - I can't really articulate this well, but I just find the idea of not existing to be really comforting and relieves a lot of stress and anxiety.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2012-09-08 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
because it drives home to me that what I do in this life matters

If I am to believe that there is nothing and nobody beyond the world we're in and the lives we're living I find that extremely demotivating. What does it matter if in the end, it's all gone?

I have a much greater sense of purpose knowing I am working for something far bigger and better than myself or than the messed-up world I'm living in. That existence, basically, has a point.

That's my perspective at least.

[personal profile] unicornherds 2012-09-08 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
If I am to believe that there is nothing and nobody beyond the world we're in and the lives we're living I find that extremely demotivating. What does it matter if in the end, it's all gone?

Yeah, I think most people think that way? But my way of thinking is that the very fact that nothing else exists beyond this just makes life matter all that more. And when I'm gone my memory and impact on the world will live on in generations following me. I also like the thought that everything I do now matters, not because of some afterlife or magical being, but because it effects those around me and the world.

something far bigger and better than myself or than the messed-up world I'm living in.

The thing that is bigger than myself is the entire world. Things I do effect people now and, hopefully, when I am gone. Not in a magical afterlife or godly way, but in a very real consequence way. Actions are bigger and better than myself - even the littlest action you take can have far reaching influence and effect. The world - the Universe - and the people in it are what I live for and are a big enough magical enough thing for me to derive purpose from.

That existence, basically, has a point.

That's exactly my point - that my existence now matters. It matters in a very real immediate way. My sense of purpose is derived from the fact that I will cease to exist and so must make my mark while I can.

I'm probably not explaining myself very well. It's a pretty huge topic and I have a lot of problems finding the right words to express such large ideas.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-08 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
I get what you're saying, I feel the same way. If nothing comes after this and I'm not going to get another shot, then I better make this time count for something. This world may be messed-up, but it's still beautiful in many ways, and something larger than I, from my limited human perspective, will ever be able to truly comprehend. It, and its future, are my greater good, my thing much bigger and better than myself. And I don't believe that existence inherently has a point- it can't, because meaning and purpose aren't one-size-fits-all things. We all make our own meaning based on our goals and experiences.

[personal profile] unicornherds 2012-09-08 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh good, I'm glad I made sense to somebody. :)

because meaning and purpose aren't one-size-fits-all things. We all make our own meaning based on our goals and experiences.

Definitely agree!

(Anonymous) 2012-09-08 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I think you're explaining it perfectly. This is how I feel, too. The concept of an afterlife (at least in the Christian sense) is inherently selfish to me because it boils down to a "what's in it for me" attitude. People who can't derive a purpose from life unless they get a reward at the end of it...I feel sorry for them. Really, truly sorry.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-08 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
The concept of an afterlife (at least in the Christian sense) is inherently selfish to me because it boilsth down to a "what's in it for me" attitude.

Oh man, this. This exactly. It's like all the people who used to talk to me when my parents took me to church when I was a kid. They would always say things like, "If you're a good girl and always do good things like the Bible says to, you'll get to go to Heaven!" Even as a six-years-old little girl, my first thought in response to that was pretty much, "Wait, you mean you need a REASON to be good and do good things?"

It's like, they always preached being selfless and doing selfless things in order to be blessed and go to Heaven, but if you're doing those things while thinking about getting something in return, they're not exactly selfless anymore. You're doing something good, but you're doing it for selfish reasons and arrrrgh all that childhood frustration is returning...

(Anonymous) 2012-09-08 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much, yes. Just about all major religions are built on getting something in return for being a good person, whether it's eternity in Heaven, 72 virgins, breaking the cycle of reincarnation, etc. It's the reason I've become very, very wary of the devoutly faithful, regardless of creed, because I've run into so many like this who pass themselves off as good people, but in reality are some of the most selfish souls I've ever met.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-08 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
You see, I'm the opposite. I don't thin my existence would have a point if I believed in after life. I don't get how that mindset works...so this is basically a life before the true life for you? That's not comforting. It would negate everything I do now and make it meaningless.

If these 60-80 years on Earth are all I have I want to make most of it. I don't want to spend my whole life molding myself into something I'm not to appease a God who might or might not let me into it's heaven. I don't want to live without happiness and fullfilment with the image of someday (be that afterlife or sometimes in the future).

For me, there is nothing scarier than the idea of existing eternaly with no desires and needs. What kind of existence is that? What is the point of it? Bliss? Nirvana? What is the point if you have no needs to make you alive, if you have no desires if you have no want to better yourself or study or just strive for something? That kind of existence seems really horrible to me.

And what about your loved ones? Do their lives lose meaning if you believe you'll meet them again in Heaven?

Just...what is the point of life if you believe in afterlife (as portrayed in Christianity). Greek, Egyptian, Hindu or Buddhist life after life makes far more sense to me than Christian afterlife...

(Anonymous) 2012-09-08 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
If I am to believe that there is nothing and nobody beyond the world we're in and the lives we're living I find that extremely demotivating. What does it matter if in the end, it's all gone?

Going out on a limb here, but maybe because there are other people in the world besides yourself that your life and existence are affecting right now?