[ SECRET POST #2076 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2076 ⌋

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Comments

[blueonblue]

I thought the pairing was fun and sexy in the first anime, then really hated it in Brotherhood. But I wouldn't say "squick," it's more like oh this was full of flirty ust and now it's sad and codependent.

[dragonimp]

That was my progression, too! I still have a soft spot for them from the first anime, but in the manga the 'ship pretty much died after Riza's freak-out/mental breakdown.

[(Anonymous)]

If it weren't for that breakdown...yargh. I feel the same way. I mean I ship it still and I pretty much ship a lot in that series canon or otherwise but that scene--I like to pretend it didn't happen :/

It'd be different if Hawkeye was all 'K. You killed the man I devoted myself to. I'll die, BUT I'll die once I've taken you down'.

or 'I want to die. But I can let his dreamS die. I have to fight and live on and help fulfill that dream.'


I dunno SOMETHING that wasn't so cliche 'loyal woman has no will to live if her beloved dies'.

[firstmoonie]

Yeah because you can think logically AT THAT MOMENT.

[(Anonymous)]

don't care about applying real-life logic, it's fiction and I want to be entertained by brave characters with their brave fiction logic :p

[firstmoonie]

Arakawa based characterizations on real life, and personally that's why FMA characters are special for me.

[dragonimp]

For me the issue was never whether her actions or characterization were realistic. I think they are justifiable and realistic. The issue is I don't like what it says about her character. I don't like the "the person I love is dead and I have lost the will to live" sort of character. I don't like the "now I will sit here and wait to be killed" sort of character. And I don't think that sort of obsessive devotion makes for a healthy relationship.

[(Anonymous)]

oh this was full of flirty ust and now it's sad and codependent.
I thought so too, but, thing is, I fucking love sad and codependent relationships. I ate it up back when the manga was ongoing (never watched Brotherhood though)

[(Anonymous)]

idk. I think I'd have a mental breakdown too if the person I love died horribly.

Losing the will to live is a bit much, but hell it WAS a mental breakdown. There's no saying she wouldn't have moved on once she had cleared her head.

[(Anonymous)]

So is codependency the new buzzword that people throw around without actually knowing what it really means? Because it sure seems like it.

[blueonblue]

New? Codependent No More came out in the 1980s, so it's totally retro now even though it lacks the old-timey charm of neurasthenia and dipsomania.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay but you still used it incorrectly. Roy and Riza's relationship isn't codependent, romantic or not.