[ SECRET POST #2078 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2078 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm tired of fighting about it too, but honestly, I think even Suzanne Collins didn't think of demographic trends when writing the books. Like, even the last names, when she's not using them to make some weird point (all the Roman names for the Capital folks) and even sometimes when she is (Coin, in fact most of the District 13 people) they're anglicized more often than not. Although who knows what Mellark is supposed to be. Or else whatever the disaster was that killed everyone off took out most of the Southern US/the coasts, and with it most of the diversity. Who the hell knows, with Panem.

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, with District 11, she really did: http://diglossia-fic.livejournal.com/81359.html

The vast majority of Panem is in what is now the Midwest, by far the most homogenous area in the US. California, much of the South, and most of the Eastern Seaboard is underwater. Alaska and Hawai'i are clearly not part of Panem. The furthest west in Panem is the Capitol, whose demographics are unknown (though the movie showed black and white residents). In fact, most of the demographics are unknown. We've met a scant handful of characters from each area, most of whom were chosen at random. There's no way to know what the real demographics of most of the Districts are.

Surnames tend to get anglicized in the US. The trends fallen out of favor over time but pronunciations of foreign surnames are certainly consistently butchered.

Malarkey is a last name.

[(Anonymous)]

How many last names do they even mention? Not many- a few Capitol citizens, a few from District 12 (Appalachians, which current demographics would dictate being predominantly White background), Coin from District 13 (which is definitely more about the Judas connection than demographics, but it's likely in the Laurentians/Quebec, and even Montreal is still over 73% white- I'd expect a French name would be more likely, but it's not as if there are no English speakers in the province) and a few Distict 4 characters when there are other hints of a Irish/Celtic background. Oh, and Johanna Mason, which is a lumber district and again could be a fairly English-ancestry heavy area.

Don't get me wrong, the books are not perfect. But the names are (generally)internally consistent. Capitol citizens have Roman or Romanesque names. Districts tend to name their kids after what they produce or another theme- D12 for example, tend to use nature names or names derived from Biblical sources with an inexact but general trend towards class divides- Seam people are generally naturey (Gale, Katniss, Primrose) while Town characters are more Biblical (Peeta=Peter, Madge=Margaret), but it is not a 100% divide, which is more believable than if it had been.