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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-10 06:38 pm

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-10 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I am SO sick of Americans' obsession with skin color - it's JUST A MOVIE
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[personal profile] habilelapin 2012-09-10 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Except it's kind of a big deal, and a representation of larger problems at work.
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[personal profile] partialsatyr 2012-09-10 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
i'm sure this comment will go over well

(Anonymous) 2012-09-10 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
talking about how representations of race in movies don't matter AND attributing discussion about it to various implied defects of America / Americans?

i'm literally 100% sure that no one will take issue with this and if anyone does their comments will be polite, reasonable, and non-inflammatory

(Anonymous) 2012-09-10 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Different anon, but yes Americans seem to have a much greater emphasis on being politically correct all. the. time.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-11 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
oh no! horror of horrors! ~~~POLITICALLY CORRECT~~~

is there anything that Europeans can't find a way to be smug about

(Anonymous) 2012-09-11 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
*snicker* I am American. From South Carolina to be exact.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-11 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
Is there anything Americans can't find a way to be aggressively defensive about?
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[personal profile] visp 2012-09-11 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
*shrug* Americans have been multicultural since the beginning, so they've had longer to work on getting along with people who aren't quite like them.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-13 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
That must be why they had seperate drinking fountains for whites and blacks, which happened nowhere else in the world except aparteid South Africa.
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[personal profile] visp 2012-09-13 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much. It took a huge movement to get that one tossed out. A lot of European and Asian countries have been pretty homogeneous for a very long time, and are just now getting the crash course in getting along that America has been repeating grades in but still painstakingly crawling towards for quite a while.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-09-10 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, can't go with you on this one.

Movies are a big fucking part of culture. They actually are kinda a reflection of the culture that made them. So yeah, it actually makes sense to care about their trends.

I think a lot of people set themselves up for disappointment with things like this, but it makes sense why people care.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-11 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm so sick of American's obsession with making everything white. Let the cast be natural. Let some non-whites play. Stop making your movies boring.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-11 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Question: if 63% of Americans are white, how is it unnatural for the majority of the cast to be white? Most American movies have POC characters but they don't have high numbers because that doesn't reflect the average ratio of Americans. If you break it down on averages, for every 6 white characters, there will be 1 Hispanic and 1 black. For every 18 white characters, there will be 3 Hispanics, 3 blacks, and 1 Asian. For every 30 white characters, there will be 5 Hispanics, 5 blacks, 2 Asians, and 1 multiracial person. You see where the problem is? And that's the WHOLE country, not various areas.

You can't ask for something that's not within that country's parameters of natural and call it natural. It's like asking Norway to have more than three or four Middle Eastern characters in every movie. That's not shooting for natural- that's shooting for a multiculturalism that doesn't exist.

It's a nice ideal, but it doesn't reflect the demographic reality, which is often a consideration for American movie makers.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-11 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
somehow no one ever brings up the "natural" and "realistic" arguments to the swaths and swaths of pure lily white media that have been in existence in America since we started making movies. you know what? yeah, it -might- be unrealistic to have a movie with all-black or all-hispanic characters, but even if we made -all- of our movies like that for decades it wouldn't approach the sheer number that have been all-white. i can't really bring myself to care about "realism" when it gives minority actors a leg up on an already racist as fuck movie industry.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-11 11:18 am (UTC)(link)
Good luck finding many casts whose main characters are even close to 37% nonwhite.