[ SECRET POST #2078 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2078 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Green-eyed redhead are an incredibly INCREDIBLY rare mix. Most people wouldn't believe it because of how saturated the scheme is in the media, but green eyes are in approximately 2% of the population, as is red hair.

Is it theoretically possible? Sure. But I doubt you can find more than ten people on the damn planet that are non-white and green-eyed and redheaded. I've never even met a white green-eyed redhead. Most of the ones you know probably have hazel eyes or dyed red hair.

And, again, the arguments for Katniss being white are much stronger than her being non-white. They're not absolute or irrefutable, but the evidence DOES point to Katniss being white.

I do not think any of that means the characters casted had to be white. But I do think it means people need to take their anger out on some other series.

[(Anonymous)]

God, the deflecting and shoddy genetics in this comment.

"Yeah, yeah, POC, the discriminatory casting sucks, but take your righteous anger out on another fandom and let me enjoy the movie without being pestered by all the racism, gawsh!"

Please, by all means, let us know when us simple colored folk have your permission to be upset about prejudice, thank you very much.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly what do you have to be annoyed at it? Because you thought the characters were non-white and the casting directors thought differently? As pointed out, there was good reason to think so.

Like...the idea that you think that they are supposed to be non-white and that the movie is racist for depicting them as white is what is making people just be out-and-out hostile where they wouldn't have been.

The only thing you can maybe take direct umbrage with is the casting director specifically barring a non-white character playing Katniss.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

I dislike discriminatory casting, but in the case of the THG I believe the author stated that Katniss was white. That's that, I'm sorry, but if you don't like it, blame this one on the author. This isn't like a situation where the characters are CONFIRMED to be PoC (like with The Last Airbender) but made white by the casting people; that's is a completely different situation. Be pissed at the right people.

That being said, if it's the the future, it's not unlikely that most people would be mixed. And I agree the anon above you doesn't know shit about genetics, clearly they have never seen a mixed person in their life.

/mixed kid

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

She didn't state Katniss was white, that she can be, but given that she purposely made people from the Seam, including her father, racially ambiguous, I kinda have to call bullshit with it. If there wasn't a history of White authors being perfectly okay with Hollywood Whitewashing their main characters (if not all like that movie 21), because I would be okay with that.

Sure there are authors like Ursula K. Le Guin who called out the Whitewashing of her characters in Earthsea, but a startling number go with the tide by trying to excuse it with having the "personality" or "acting chops" until that little lie gets blown up when the casting call only ask for White girls. For a more current example, Issac Marion, the author of Warm Bodies, okayed the whitewashing of a supporting character who was biracial and visibly brown for a pale white girl.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

Ugh, honestly, that's why I feel that sometimes it'd just be better if Characters of Color were written by PoC. There are exceptions to the rule, like Le Guin, of course.

You see, most of the people I see, are vying for white authors to make Characters of Color, while I think it'd be much better if that time and attention was dedicated to trying to support PoC-writers and get their works more publicity.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

so basically, "don't even bother trying, whitey, us ~PoC~ are too special for you to understand"


gotcha

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Pretty much.

White person writes a book about a POC where race is an important issue and source of identity.
Response: "Why do stories about POC always have to center around race?"

White person writes a book about a POC where race isn't an important issue and source of identity.
Response: "Why are POC characters always written like white people with white people issues?"

White person writes a book without POC main characters.
Response: "This book is racist for not including POC characters."

[logicbutton]

Okay, but part of the OP's point is that this is way in the future when there's theoretically going to have been a lot more racial mixing, so those current percentages aren't relevant.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, if anecdotal evidence counts, the only red haired, green eyed person I've ever met was an African-American boy in high school with one white grandparent. Whoops, they exist! Guess I have permission to keep calling out bullshit in THG casting now.

[(Anonymous)]

It's always funny when people think non-White people can never have this features and there is no capable actor to fulfill that role.

Shit, my family is known to pop out a redhead a generation and our last white ancestor was quite a few generations ago.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

Don't even have white in my family and green eyes turn up every other generation or so. There's more to people of color than shades of black and brown.

[(Anonymous)]

How does this negate anon's statement? This boy was part-white, enabling him to have genes for red hair and green eyes.

[(Anonymous)]

Nope, best argument is multiracial.

[(Anonymous)]

Finnick wasn't said to have red hair, he was said to have bronze hair, which is more of a reddish dark brown.

Green eyes are common in (according to wiki): "Northern and Central Europe, Southern Europe, parts of South Asia (Afghanistan, northern Pakistan, northwestern India)", and lots in Iceland. So with tan skin, bronze (darkish reddish brown) hair, and green eyes, he could be of South Asian descent, for instance.

I think it would have just been cool for biracial people.

[(Anonymous)]

I will presently invite you to dinner with my redheaded, green-eyed, non-white family. All more than 10 of us.