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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-10 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2078 ]


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[personal profile] lilypadhead 2012-09-11 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
It sucks, but that's the way it is.

Did you miss that part? I don't think anon supports the way Hollywood handles race, I know I don't. But anon's point wasn't about right and wrong, it's about reality.
I wish, I really do wish that you could just call out Hollywood like a misbehaving child and that they'd correct themselves, but that kind of response gets you nowhere. I can guarantee you, if this volatile, aggressive response is how who try and get people to do what you want, you will get nowhere. It's not that I like it, or I think it's right; but it's the ugly truth.

In a perfect world, in a just world, the oppressed wouldn't have to fight for equality; but guess what, it isn't. You say 'this isn't on us'; guess what, it is. You know why? Cause if we don't do something, no one will. Hollywood doesn't care about social injustice, until it starts affecting their wallets.

I think trying to support and give publicity to minority authors is a good way to go, and educate and inform people who are unfamiliar with these types of issues (I know what you're thinking 'we shouldn't have too', and you know what, I agree, but unfortunately life isn't fair like that). Yelling and insulting people doesn't work, it just makes the entire movement look bad.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-11 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish, I really do wish that you could just call out Hollywood like a misbehaving child and that they'd correct themselves, but that kind of response gets you nowhere. I can guarantee you, if this volatile, aggressive response is how who try and get people to do what you want, you will get nowhere. It's not that I like it, or I think it's right; but it's the ugly truth.

What? This "violate" type of response gets shit done. Nothing when it came to civil right was done nicely. Not even Gandhi or MLK Jr were "nice" about it because they constantly called out shit for it.

Anger got shit done and will continue to do so. Niceness doesn't get anything done and gets easily dismissed.

I don't know about you, but I am not satisfied with shit like it is, that blase attitude only adds to the problem.

Tone Argument

(Anonymous) 2012-09-15 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
http://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/07/24/the-tone-argument/

Stop worrying about how 'the movement' looks. People have a right to be angry and to express that anger. Your chosen method is not the only one out there.