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fandomsecrets2012-09-10 06:38 pm
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(Anonymous) 2012-09-11 02:22 am (UTC)(link)Oh wait.
Your reasoning is as flawed as all hell. Hollywood can not pull "WELL WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO PANDER TO YOU" when it is a part of the racist system, sorry to say. Like or not, Hollywood has a very profound effect on people when it comes to people, whether they admit it or not. Pretty much every stereotype about people have traces originating (or at least popularized) from Hollywood. Hollywood, like most media, is a microcosm of society. You can not win the fight against -isms if you have one sector of society still spewing out them with impunity.
But let's not act like Hollywood is embracing any POC writers who mainly writes POC. Let's not act like they don't try to explain away when a POC-dominant movie that makes bank as a fluke despite it keeps happening. Let's not act like when they DO get interested in a POC-dominant story/script/what have you, they don't instantly whitewash most if not all characters because the POC characters are just not relatable even though POCs do just fine with White characters, AND THEY DO THAT EVEN IN BIOPICS! Let's not act like most of these movies don't take place in big cities that are highly diverse but it's an very dominant white cast with one POC character (2-3 if we're fucking lucky, and more than one is a WOC character if we're good enough!). I can fucking go on...
Stop putting the fucking onus of the lack of diversity in Hollywood on POC. It's not like we're fucking trying like hell. Good fucking lord.
When George Fucking Lucas has to finance a movie on his own dime because it dared to have a mostly Black cast, what in the fuck chances most POC have without the connections and money? You would think that someone like Tyler Perry is basically printing money because Black people are fucking starved to see portrayals of them that is actually diverse (although noted that his movies are usually shit and problematic as all hell) would ring some serious bells. BUT NOPE.
This is not on us. Don't you gotdamn dare.
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(Anonymous) 2012-09-11 02:37 am (UTC)(link)no subject
Did you miss that part? I don't think anon supports the way Hollywood handles race, I know I don't. But anon's point wasn't about right and wrong, it's about reality.
I wish, I really do wish that you could just call out Hollywood like a misbehaving child and that they'd correct themselves, but that kind of response gets you nowhere. I can guarantee you, if this volatile, aggressive response is how who try and get people to do what you want, you will get nowhere. It's not that I like it, or I think it's right; but it's the ugly truth.
In a perfect world, in a just world, the oppressed wouldn't have to fight for equality; but guess what, it isn't. You say 'this isn't on us'; guess what, it is. You know why? Cause if we don't do something, no one will. Hollywood doesn't care about social injustice, until it starts affecting their wallets.
I think trying to support and give publicity to minority authors is a good way to go, and educate and inform people who are unfamiliar with these types of issues (I know what you're thinking 'we shouldn't have too', and you know what, I agree, but unfortunately life isn't fair like that). Yelling and insulting people doesn't work, it just makes the entire movement look bad.
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(Anonymous) 2012-09-11 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)What? This "violate" type of response gets shit done. Nothing when it came to civil right was done nicely. Not even Gandhi or MLK Jr were "nice" about it because they constantly called out shit for it.
Anger got shit done and will continue to do so. Niceness doesn't get anything done and gets easily dismissed.
I don't know about you, but I am not satisfied with shit like it is, that blase attitude only adds to the problem.
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(Anonymous) 2012-09-15 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)Stop worrying about how 'the movement' looks. People have a right to be angry and to express that anger. Your chosen method is not the only one out there.