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so going through this topic I've noticed people keep mentioning wearing make-up for jobs and such. is make-up really a deciding factor for companies looking to hire? =/ I don't like make-up, never have. I've also been job hunting for over a year without success and have been wondering what it is I'm doing wrong. could it be because I don't wear make-up?

A fair number of women in my white-collar office don't wear makeup (or at least not every day), and I'm almost certain I didn't wear any to interview. I think you're having trouble because the job market sucks, but if you would feel more confident and put-together wearing makeup in interviews, attitude can definitely help. Good luck, anon!

(And it does depend what kind of work you're looking for. If you're going into something "customer-facing" like PR or Sales, there will likely be a bigger emphasis on appearance.)

I've pretty much applied everywhere that I qualify for (still an early college student with no experience) but the only places that have called me in for interviews have been grocery stores and bakeries. I've been clean, groomed, and dressed nicely all those times sans make-up and I've felt the interviews had went really well. I had expected calls back every time but never got one =/ I guess I was kinda hoping make-up might've been the key all along but it could just be the job market.

I want to say it doesn't matter, but it does seem like if you have a lot of pimples or uneven skintone or something that it reflects badly on you in a professional environment. It's bullshit, but that's reality. Same for hair. I have crazy curly wild hair and on days when I get up and I'm running late and don't have time to style it straight, people definitely give me disapproving looks in the office. I don't give a shit, because I work for a state agency and nobody is going to fire me for having curly hair, but I definitely wore foundation to even out my skintone and I styled my hair straight for the interview.

So no, it's not required to wear makeup (I hardly ever do at work), but it certainly helps you land a job (not in the sense that you look desirable or attractive by doing so, it's mostly that wearing foundation or effectively applied "natural" makeup means that interviewers won't focus on something like a pimple on your face, etc.)

I did see sone research that people tend to read a woman as more 'professional' if she's wearing make up, even light make up. So it's about controlling your image.

You can get things like light moisturising foundation or tinted moisturiser, lip tint in natural colours (which can often double as a subtle blusher), a little light eyeshadow applied with your finger to give just a suggestion. So it doesn't have to be heavy or uncomfortable.

Even light make up smooths out your complexion, slightly exaggerates your main features, and disguises some micro-expressions. All of this makes people read you as "more professional", just like wearing smart clothes. Some of it is also why I try not to wear make up mostly when working with children, but sometimes you do need to look more professional.

And yet men don't have to do that.

Sorry, if you can't look professional without smearing even a LITTLE make up on the face, then something's wrong in general.

Enhancements or no, I'm not gonna lie to my interviewer and have that crap on my face only to not have to wear it later IF I get said job.

Men have to shave. Even men with beards have to shave bits of their faces and necks, as well as trim. At least applying makeup doesn't leave you bleeding.

Unless you're allergic. I'm not, but doesn't mean other women aren't.

I'm sorry; I just find the whole damn thing unnecessary in general. There mere fact that you at least DRESSED in good, clean, non wrinkly clothing should be enough. And have clean hair and it not be scraggly.

Make up is ONLY an enhancement that is NOT a fucking requirement and society needs to get that into it's collective head. And it's why I don't bother with it.

How fantastically privileged of you to have that option. The rest of us will find jobs as we can, and work to earn what we can, and work to open careers up to women, and work to get the percentages at the top high enough that people stop being surprised and treating women like representatives of their gender. You can afford to simply complain that everyone should just be grateful that you washed and put on clean clothes. Apparently "hair is scraggly" is an acceptable reason to not hire you?

Oh yes!! I'm so privileged, here working on 2 years of fighting this shit headed job market and no job.

You can put all kinds of words into my mouth, but I stand by what I think. So long as you're clean, have some nice clothes, and a good attitude going in, having a clean shaven face or trimmed face, no makeup doesn't fucking matter. And as I said, I'm not gonna lie and be super uncomfortable going into an interview for a Best But cashier job. And I don't plan on working corporate anyway. So you can kindly fuck off your high horse.

We don't live in a world of 'should'. If you want to present a professional image, as a woman, that's what you do. If their stupid enough to hire you because of it, great. In reality, it will be the combination of tiny nudges that give you an edge over equally competent candidates: that is the reality of the world. Just like they'll pick the clean-shaven guy, because he looks more professional. Or the taller guy, because he looks better at being in charge. Or the person with the more desirable accent (who has learnt to codeswitch away from their mother accent, for the work environment), or the person who dressed more 'professionally' as defined by the profession and their gender.

It is what it is: use your advantages, or don't. But they are certainly advantages you have access to.

A guy in my office got his eyebrow ring hooked in the strap of his bag as he was taking it off at his interview, and he still got the job over a bunch of other applicants. It all depends where you are applying.

The job market is very hard right now, and I would certainly suggest wearing makeup to your interviews to help you look well-groomed and polished. It's not particularly fair, but society does regard women wearing makeup as a requirement to be "polished," even when men, for instance, don't know that she is wearing makeup.

Sometimes my husband will say something like, "Look how great that woman looks without makeup," and I have to roll my eyes and tell him that she's wearing at least a tinted moisturizer and probably a bronzer on her cheekbones.

The bottom line is that women with makeup are the baseline societal marker for "polished women" so yes, wear makeup to your interviews. I have to wear makeup every day for work; sorry, it's not fair, but if you want to rise in the corporate world, makeup is not optional.

No. Fuck that.

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