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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-10 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2078 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-09-11 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, the US is very diverse But no one ever points out that all the cities that have the largest population of diversity were destroyed in the books. NYC? Gone. L.A.? Gone. Miami? Gone. D.C.? Gone. All you have left, for the most part, is middle America, which is vastly white of the German, Scandinavian variety. (Or as Stephen Colbert put it so nicely, "You can't swing a dead cat without someone wanting to pickle it.") The cities, left standing, that would be really diverse would be the ones in the North not quite mid-west region. Like Detroit or Chicago. But the area where Katniss is from? Yes. Not really diverse. You are not going to see many Asians.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-11 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. District 12 is near Atlanta, Georgia. Big surprise it's the main black area. Most of the districts are between the Appalachians and the Rocky Mountains, where the population is majority white.

If you knock out Hawai'i, Alaska, California, Oregon, Washington, most of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and most, if not all, of the Eastern Seaboard (if the Capitol is all the fuck over by the Rocky Mountains, the Atlantic Ocean is swamping a good deal of the East Coast), you're not left with a whole lot of diversity. The most diverse areas would have to be the Capitol (which we know nothing about demographically), District 12 (known to have a black majority and at least some Hispanic or multiracial minority), and District 13 (demographics unknown due to an epidemic). If everyone's marrying everyone, you're still going to have an overwhelmingly white "look" to the rest of the Districts.

It's really, really hard to look at this rationally and wonder why the fuck there aren't more POC. I think a lot of this has to do with people having the impression that the US demographics as a whole means that each and every place in the US has one black and one Hispanic to every six whites and that a good percentage of the US black population doesn't live in the South. That's just not how it is.
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[personal profile] mekkio 2012-09-11 12:16 pm (UTC)(link)
District 12 is actually nearer to the West Virginia area in the Appalacians. Not many coal mines in Atlanta. Katniss lives in the mountains.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-11 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I meant District 11. Which should have been obvious from context.
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[personal profile] mekkio 2012-09-11 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
But District 11 isn't located in Georgia, either. Georgia is pretty much underwater. The east coastal states are gone. District 11 is around upper Louisiana and Arkansas. That area.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-11 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Um, no, District 12 is near North Carolina/Virginia/West Virginia. Atlanta does not, and will not, ever produce coal. Atlanta is solidly in District 11. This was intentional and why there were many darker characters from D11.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-11 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Fucked the numbers up. I meant District 11.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-12 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Regardless, here in North Carolina, we are HUGELY black and Hispanic, with growth encroaching into the stereotypically predominantly white places. In fact, NC is the 11th state with most Hispanics in the US.

I think a lot of the people upset about the casting are not specifically upset about Finnick's casting, we're just still mad that white is still default, even in a fictional setting where currently and especially if population trends were to continue, white would NOT be default.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-11 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Argh, I meant District 12.