[ SECRET POST #2079 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2079 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, people think Oogie Boogie is racist? And yes, Ken Page is amazing.

[(Anonymous)]

I know nothing about the character but "Oogie Boogie" has been used as a racist phrase to describe Africans and their "primitive" cultures.

[(Anonymous)]

Weird. I thought 'Oogie Boogie' was taken from 'Boogie Man' and explained why he sings "I am the shadow on the moon at night, filling your dreams to the brim with fright"

[(Anonymous)]

That's because Oogie Boogie was taken from the Boogie Man.

[(Anonymous)]

Also "Ooga Booga".

Coincidence?

[insanenoodlyguy]

8/10

Now that's how you troll!

[rosejailmaiden]

"You better pay attention now, 'cause I'm the boogie man"

right there in his villain song

[(Anonymous)]

Not the person you're responding to, but huh I never knew that. I always assumed in the movie Oogie Boogie was meant in the scary context, like the Boogie Man.

[(Anonymous)]

This. Even now when I am aware of many outdated racist stereotypes and words most people don't know about anymore, this is the first time I heard of this one.

And for years I didn't know who played Oogie Boogie or associate him with a black guy because of his voice (except perhaps subconsciously, if you believe that's inevitable).

Oh rly?

[insanenoodlyguy]

Give me one citation that proves you aren't full of shit. One.

Re: Oh rly?

[visp]

Well, I've heard people call Africans 'ooga boogas' before - and yes, it was meant in a racist manner.

Re: Oh rly?

[insanenoodlyguy]

That's not oogie boogie.

Re: Oh rly?

[visp]

True, but I suppose it sounds similar enough for some people to make the connection. I personally don't think the Oogie Boogie man is racist, though.

[(Anonymous)]

Perhaps not, but Tim Burton is definitely racist, going out of his way to exclude characters of color in all his productions. In his world, they don't exist. Unless they're a Cherokee Princess like Johnny Depp of course. Only vaguely "exotic".

:D

[insanenoodlyguy]

This thread is a goldmine

[fingalsanteater]

Maybe he doesn't want to be accused of doing 'white face'? Since pretty much all his characters are pasty, freakish ghouls.

[(Anonymous)]

Tim Burton doesn't have white characters. He has skeletons on toothpicks that have butterfly lips and fish lies :D

[(Anonymous)]

I hate grammar nazis, but I'm giggling at the concept of "fish lies."

[fingalsanteater]

Fish are notorious liars. They'll say anything to get you to throw them back. Never trust a talking fish.

[kaileighblue]

I dunno an Indian little person seems pretty exotic to me.

[(Anonymous)]

There are black kids in Nightmare Before Christmas. They get the ghost vampire doll and the bloodthirsty duck toy before Santa swaps those out for a teddy bear and a sailboat.

[al28894]

Same here. O__O