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⌈ Secret Post #2079 ⌋

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Comments

Re: anon for obvious reasons

[(Anonymous)]

prolifer above, I'm anti-death penalty for the reasons you mentioned and I only support war when it's to stop things like genocide or when you're defending against an attack.

Re: anon for obvious reasons

[anonymouslyyours]

You believe a person has a right to kill in self-defense? Then I argue abortion is in defense of the woman's right to her body, emotional and mental well-being, and quality of life. As well as the fact that even for healthy women pregnancy and labor can be life-threatening.

Re: anon for obvious reasons

[(Anonymous)]

if the person is actively trying to harm you? yeah. But I wouldn't shoot someone because they're unknowingly upsetting me, or because they gave me a deadly strain of the flu, or something.

and these days a pregnancy isn't really life-threatening, at least in my country for a healthy woman.

if they're that concerned about being pregnant, then they should use birth control.

Re: anon for obvious reasons

[anonymouslyyours]

Shooting someone who gives you the flu will not get rid of the disease. Terminating a fetus does stop it from continuing to change and affect your body and health.

There is always risk involved when you're talking about pregnancy and labor no matter what kind of medical care you have access to. Pregnancy has many, many symptoms that directly impact someone's quality of life for the duration of and even permanently after. Not everyone is in a position where they are able to financially, physically, emotionally sustain a pregnancy until adoption. Labor can be a hugely traumatic event for women who do choose to have a child. I have no idea how people can believe in forcing someone through that ordeal against their wishes.

Are you seriously arguing no one has ever gotten pregnant while using birth control?

Re: anon for obvious reasons

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not arguing that, no, but that's a risk that people know exist when they have sex.

Re: anon for obvious reasons

[anonymouslyyours]

So you support abortion access for rape victims? And believe if women don't want a pregnancy they just should never have sex?

Re: anon for obvious reasons

[(Anonymous)]

If you believe in the right to self-defense, then abortion in the case of a mother's life or health being endangered is completely morally justified.

Re: anon for obvious reasons

[(Anonymous)]

and i disagree. the fetus is not attackingits mother. it's two completely separate things.

Re: anon for obvious reasons

[(Anonymous)]

New Anon

Well no, the fetus is not attacking its mother, that's true. But pregnancy complications exist that can be very harmful for the mother but pose no danger for the fetus. Ectopic pregnancy is one example, where the fetus implants itself inside a woman's fallopian tube instead of her uterus. I wholeheartedly support abortion in this case. Because you know that the consequence is? The death of the mother.

This actually happened to my mother. She didn't want to aborted the fetus that implanted itself in her fallopian tube. The fetus ended up ripped open her fallopian tube, causing great internal bleeding and immediate life danger (my mother literally would have died for sure if she had arrived at the hospital an hour later than she did because she was bleeding out). We were lucky we had the medical support needed to save her life. Not everyone is so lucky.

So you are saying that just because the fetus is not attacking its mother, it shouldn't be aborted even if the mother's life or health is being endangered by the presence of the fetus?

No. Fuck you.

FUCK YOU.

Because, according to you, all for a fetus that would definitely have killed my mother without medical intervention, my mother should not be alive today and I should not have any of the younger siblings that were born after the ectopic pregnancy.

FUCK. YOU.

Re: anon for obvious reasons

[ariakas]

In other words, a fetus has more of a right to live than its mother? Because that's what you're just decided. Women are to die to give a fetus a chance at life. Women who are (usually) already mothers and already have dependents and lives and loved ones should literally die so that a human with no brain stem might someday have one.

Seriously, what?