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Why are people such ginormous fucking snobs about this.

I don't read YA myself, but I can't understand how it could possibly be worse than "adult" novels by Dan Brown or Tom Clancy. It's still escapism, so why is a middle aged man's escapism superior to that of a young woman's? Why is three paragraphs dedicated to the heroine's hairstyle and angsty love life objectively worse than how this old dude can totally still kick the asses of fit young men and also has awesome guns with awesome accessories? It's all just tripe, right? Why is old person tripe "better"?

Sure there are adult-oriented novels that are classics and genuine pieces of literature, but there are also children's novels like that, like the Narnia series or the Hobbit or Treasure Island or Tom Sawyer or Alice in Wonderland. Why so angry that young people read books for young people?

Seriously, I don't understand. As I said don't read YA and never really have (omg reading grownup books since child!!!11) but don't feel the need to take a proverbial shit all over people who do. I'm 99% sure my Rainbow Six is not more full of merit than someone else's Hunger Games.

Someone please enlighten me. What is so horrible about YA that people who read it suck compared to people who read Danielle Steel and Clive Cussler. It can't be the writing quality or the escapism.

Maybe she just mistakenly thought that the person was referring to her Word of God about Dumbledore and had the characters confused, though.

Same. Lost had some awkward phases, but even then it was still fun to see what sort of crazy shit was going to happen that week and freak out about it with everyone else in the live discussion posts. I miss it a lot.

YA is where the publishers feel they will get the best money right now. I wish I had the choices as a 15 year old reader that are present to me in my late 20s. I ended up reading stuff like Francesca Lia Block, Fear Street, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, and The Outsiders, because that's what was available to me. I would've loved to have a book like Hunger Games when I was 15-16.

My sister's friend is a romance writer. She's writing a romance with two 20-something characters. Since the novel is light on the sexytimes, multiple people at her romance convention (agents and the like) suggested she lower the ages of her character so she can submit it as a YA. Purely because it's light on the sex. I suspect this phenomenon is pretty across the board, even in non-romance fields. Light on the abuse, sexy, or dysfunction? Better be YA!

I actually never understood when people complained about the books (or plays or short stories) they had to read in high school. I actually thought most were pretty good. I'm curious to find people's favorites and least favorites.

For me:

Favorites: *One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (my all-time favorite)
*Lord of the Flies
*To a Kill a Mockingbird (I have yet to meet anyone who disliked this book)
*Of Mice and Men
*Night

Least Favorites: *The Scarlet Letter (my all-time least favorite. I got nothing out of that book. I found it pretentious and difficult to read. I think it turned me off to Hawthorne forever).

*The Jungle (I hated this book too. I guess it succeeds as a socialist critique of the meatpacking industry in the early 1900s, but I found it boring as a novel. It was just Bad Things happen to two-dimensional characters without any real substance).

*Things Fall Apart (I also felt this a pain to read. It didn't help that the protagonist was unlikeable).

I want to know about other people? What did you like/dislike?

Don't worry anon, I may have been a little harsh about the hair but I still wouldn't say no...assuming I'd survive any resulting encounter, which is unlikely. But whatever.

Also I was born in the mid 80s and my teens hit around the time of a 70s fashion revival and I LOVED wearing flares...in fact, part of me still would. Sometimes I miss my flares.

I think we should have a rec sub-thread. Aaaand go!

I'm partial to Good Omens and anything written by Jasper Fforde, especially Shades of Grey.

Huh. I thought it looked more semi-dreadlock-y (as in, hasn't brushed out the tangles in a long time and doesn't plan to, the way a lot of old-world people did it).

Not sure I'd say the best, but it's high on the list!

And oh god your icon kills me. I could probably lose a few hours watching it, because it's strangely memorizing (in a hilarious way).

We had a secret + thread two or three days ago about My Chemical Romance, and some of the commenters wondered what the band was currently up to. Like the 13-year-old I am at heart, I still follow their website, and at that point, I knew they were recording a new album and had been doing so for a while.

For those of you who missed the drama, MCR recorded a CD in 2008/2009 that they wound up scrapping in favor of releasing "Danger Days." Last night, Frank made a blog post on their website that they will soon be releasing songs from the scrapped sessions, two every month for five months starting in October. They're calling the project/demos "Conventional Weapons" and more can be read about it here: http://www.mychemicalromance.com/blog/frank/conventional-weapons

So... yeah.

YA books are not objectively better or worse than adult books. I just can't relate to a 26 year old person who is still mentally in high school.

Didn't one of the guys from Queen who dropped out of university to start a band end up going back and finishing up his thesis decades later? There's time enough in the world for anything. It's not as though a college education is something you can only get when you're in your twenties.

Oh shit, I posted that in the wrong place, sorry!!!!

omg all I saw was Shades of Grey and I thought you meant 50 of them and I was about to call troll.

rofl trufax

But you can better relate to a 55-year-old man or woman trying to relive their glory days (i.e. 90% of adult fiction, it seems like, and I've read an awful lot of it)?

Well, at least now I know someone else who was born old.

Favorites:
+Catch-22 <3 <3
+Grapes of Wrath
+Lord of the Flies
+Animal Farm
Idk if this counts since it's a play but: +A Midsummer Night's Dream

Least Favorites
+Scarlet Letter (ia with all your points haha)
+Wuthering Heights
+The Jungle (ia again)
+The Sun Also Rises

Well, hair glued together by sweat looks kinda dread-locky on a white guy. It just looked *ungroomed* and not exactly clean, to me.

The episode of Voltron Force, with the cliche evil Voltron copy. When the reaction to having their asses handed to them was basically "Let's see what Deus ex Machina Trio MacGuffin can come up with to save the day next time!" instead of "Wow, that sucked. We need to get our asses in gear and get better at the whole fighting with a giant freaking robot thing."

I just completely gave up on it. As a Voltron fan since I was really little I was very disappointed in the way VF turned out.

I read a lot of children's/YA fantasy because it's not as bogged down with boring romance/sex crap as fantasy marketed towards adults is.

So, Fandomsecrets, lately I've been thinking to myself, "Self, what the Harry Potter fandom really needs is a series retool into a super-soft science fiction AU." I did some messing around with it a few weeks ago, but I watched Flash Gordon for the first time yesterday, and the idea's starting to become more and more, "YES! MUST WRITE! EMPEROR VOLD! HOGWARTS MOON! PREJUDICE AGAINST HUMANS! RON THE HAWK-PERSON! WANDS ARE RAYGUNS!"

Therefore, I have two questions for you:
1. Has somebody done this already? If yes, LINKS PLZ.
2. Would anyone even read this?

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...they're really trying hard, aren't they? dang

In bed because I'm lazy and it's comfortable.

I love ridiculous impractical costumes for canonically super-powerful advanced aristocratic beings, but damn, Tony's "Reindeer games" crack made me die laughing, and not just because of how well it (accidentally) fit Loki's character.

Speranza just did this to one of my fandoms.

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