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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-15 03:54 pm

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-15 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
YA books are not objectively better or worse than adult books. I just can't relate to a 26 year old person who is still mentally in high school.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2012-09-15 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
But you can better relate to a 55-year-old man or woman trying to relive their glory days (i.e. 90% of adult fiction, it seems like, and I've read an awful lot of it)?

Well, at least now I know someone else who was born old.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-15 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
If you think 90% of adult fiction is written by the 55+ demographic, you haven't read as much as you think you have.

You might try Caroline Leavitt, Mark Haddon, Elisabeth Hyde, Jennifer Weiner, Chevy Stevens, etc... those are the authors I enjoyed most recently.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2012-09-15 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I think that because the 50+ crowd is by far and away the largest book-buying demographic. Most "adult" literature is geared to boomers. It's just a fact. "90%" being hyperbole of course, like I would (sincerely) hope the "95% of YA readers are immature adults who live with their parents and can't get a job" was.

So you mean Mark Haddon's large collection of Youth-oriented novels? You read YA yourself, then? That's not what I would have expected, anon. I haven't read him because I don't read YA.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-15 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Haddon

See section "For Adults." I've never read his YA titles.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2012-09-15 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha well that's a recent switch.

Serious question, anon: why are you so prickly about this? I don't expect my soul will be enlightened that much more by age and gender appropriate escapist tripe than it has been by tripe geared toward middle aged men. It's not as if we're discussion serious literature even - this is all popular fiction. Why is the age appropriateness of one's tripe important? Is it because you believe it reflects one's developmental stage? I'm not really sure I believe that. I was reading Cussler and Clancy in grade school because I preferred firearms and airplanes to the (then) age and gender appropriate vampires and proms. If someone is reading about vampires and proms as a 30-something, could it not be because they prefer those particular tropes to angst about aging and marriage? Does preferring a teenager's tripe to a professional's tripe reflect so much immaturity?

(Anonymous) 2012-09-15 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry I've come off as prickly. It's hard for me to understand why someone would choose to focus on vampires and proms once they've moved past a certain stage in life and (perhaps this is a flaw on my part) I find it really hard to talk to them as I would talk to other people my age because I feel like we have very little in common if they're still into that kind of thing. When people I work with, for example, are gushing about Edward Cullen's marble chest and how he'd look going to the prom in the tux a soap opera character is wearing on the office TV, I legitimately have nothing to say to them. I just walk away. I don't walk away to make fun of them to my other coworkers.

I don't think it's better or worse, just different...but, though we do have both sides here in the office, the ones who seek drama (i.e. gossip about patients), get nasty to other coworkers (i.e. comment on how someone is losing weight and is totally anorexic omg that bitch) and seem insecure in general are those talking about Edward Cullen, the prom and the tux. That may also come into play with the prickliness.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2012-09-15 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I've had the opposite experience. My new roommate loves Twilight and the Hunger Games, and, like you, I had some pretty severe misgivings about this coming from a 32-year-old woman. Yet... she's one of the sweetest, kindest, most mature and thoughtful people I've ever met. She just likes vampires and proms. Who knows, maybe she felt the same way about me the first time she saw my model airplanes.

Seriously though nasty, insecure co-workers are the worst and I don't blame you for resenting them. But I don't think their tastes in literature reflect the literature itself so much as the popularity of the literature. I remember when everyone in my office was rabidly attached to Survivor and Survivor-related gossip. Then it was American Idol. Now that those have died down in popularity, it's all Twilight and the Hunger Games. It's popular tripe, something easily accessible to almost everyone so they'll have something to talk about around the office - something to bond over. Same reason a lot of men watch sports they don't even care about; a low-brow, automatic conversation piece that everyone can get it on.

At least these ladies are (ostensibly) reading.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-15 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
"At least these ladies are (ostensibly) reading."

Ha! That's true, at least.