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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-15 03:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2083 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2083 ⌋

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insanenoodlyguy: (Awesomeface)

The part where you worry about my race and gender is an inferiority you also want to work on. Bigot.

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-09-16 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry you're apparently inferior to me... but if you try really hard, you can pretend to be like me!

You know... not caring so much about why you like a fucking song you actually like.
Edited 2012-09-16 04:19 (UTC)

Re: The part where you worry about my race and gender is an inferiority you also want to work on. Bi

(Anonymous) 2012-09-16 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
Gosh, quelle surprise: insanenoodlyguy just doesn't get it. Derailing for Dummies.
insanenoodlyguy: (Awesomeface)

Re: The part where you worry about my race and gender is an inferiority you also want to work on. Bi

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-09-16 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)

Re: The part where you worry about my race and gender is an inferiority you also want to work on. Bi

(Anonymous) 2012-09-16 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
M'kay...I'm the original anon you were conversing with, that last comment was actually not from me. But you totaly missed the point of the last comment. It's not that your race, gender, orientation or whatever make you inferior--it's that they give you the PRIVILEGE of not caring whether stuff is racist, sexist, homophobic, etc.

And if you really don't think that songs are important enough to worry about...then WHY do you care SO MUCH about why people chose to like or dislike them?
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

Re: The part where you worry about my race and gender is an inferiority you also want to work on. Bi

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-09-16 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
You wouldn't know it from the way some people use it online, either as an insult or an ad hominem.

But okay. You have talked intelligently, so you deserve an intelligent answer.

I don't care that somebody likes or dislikes a song. I do however find it somewhat tragic when a person likes something but feels they shouldn't, because of any reason. In this case, because they find the implied gender roles of the song problematic.

If you say "this song is problematic to me, I dont' like it!" that's fine and your reasoning is fine. If you say "This song is catchy! I like it!" that's fine (and so are the ten million small variations on these above). But OP's secret (and others like it I've seen before) tend to go with "I want to like this but oh, I shouldn't!" That's an imposed guilt/shaming I find to be unfortionate.

There are many, many things that are not perfect that we might still derive some pleasure from. Hell, look at almost every really funny joke ever told! most of them deal with something horrible or are about it. I think if we start second guessing ourselves over that, we find ourselves hating things we might otherwise like. Or even hating ourselves because we convince ourselves we are horrible people. I would like to see more people like whatever they want to like and not feel any shame about it. That doesn't mean you can't acknowledge something's problems though (EX: Shakespeare is some great stuff. It's also sexist as fuck half the time. It was wrong then and it's wrong today but we don't have to hate Shakespeare, or only look at some of the bards work and pretend the rest didn't happen, which can be just as fucking problematic in different ways)

Though to speak to the original OP's problem... why dont' they just find an instrumental/karaoke version? They make those for nearly everything. I'm sure a song by a popular artist will have a treatment. Conflict resolved! (Though suggesting that at first wouldn't have started nearly as much wank, and where's the fun in that?)
Edited 2012-09-16 19:09 (UTC)