[ SECRET POST #2084 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2084 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

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Comments

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What's the difference between watching an LP and actually playing through the game though? In some cases it makes sense where you get to make the choices yourself for a different outcome (say, Mass Effect), but if it's just a straightforward LP of a game that doesn't have any real "choices" (a Zelda game, perhaps), how is it really any difference? They get the same experience. Even in a game like Mass Effect or something where the LPer IS making choices, the viewer is still experiencing the game in much the same way as someone playing it. In many ways, they're getting a much BETTER experience. I'm TERRIBLE at games. I've played so many and never defeated them because I can't get past that final boss, or that tricky puzzle, or I just plain can't afford to keep shelling out for a monthly-payment plan. Being able to watch an LP instead is so much easier for me, and I learn just as much about the character as I would if I played it myself.

And frankly, it's not like there aren't terrible fanfic writers out there who HAVE played the game. And there are amazing ones out there who haven't, and probably more who haven't but don't tell you they haven't because you'd be needlessly judgey about their fics if you knew. A good writer can do the research and write amazing fics, and a bad writer can play the game 100 times and still suck at writing a story. Your complaint is just lazy people not researching or writing good stories, not whether or not people learned canon from playing themselves or watching an LP.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree.

[(Anonymous)]

*searches for the like button*

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with much of what you're saying and I have to say before I start I don't judge those who watch LPs and I welcome them in fandom.

But there IS a difference when you play a game, and part of that can even be the frustration that comes with being bad at a game. Many of my conversations about video games with friends are along the lines of "Oh god fuck the Water temple!" and then we can rant about which bosses we though were the hardest or which enemies we hate the most.

That is something I would imagine you don't get from LPs, I think you can still get the story and be part of fandom, for sure, but you are missing out on some sincere conversations.

Again, not judging, this just came to mind as something that would be different.

[(Anonymous)]

first, what does this have to do with writing great fic?

second, hate to tell you but no, doesn't exactly work that way. I can sit by a friend of mine's side, watch him play, feel his frustration, talk with him about it and then carry that knowledge over into other conversations.

...and you never know the difference.

how do I know this?

because I do it all. the. time.

talking the finer points of the game and strategy and the gear make up for the stats to get you through some of the harder levels on nightmare mode? no, probably can't keep up a good conversation with those folks.

but those folks aren't busy making sexytime fics with m!Shep/Kaiden for them to notice me.

[(Anonymous)]

sa

*Kaidan

spelling fail and inability to edit makes for sad anons.

but before anyone sees that as a reason to leap on me? I am in a roleplaying game where someone is playing f!shep where the player has spelled it shepherd...and she has played the game, so...

[(Anonymous)]

The secret was about fandom, not fic specifically, I know comment OP mentioned fic but fandom encompasses a lot of things, including gamers who are talking the finer points of the game and strategy.

It was asked "What is the difference between watching the LP and playing?" And I do personally feel that there is a difference, just because you can fake a conversation about knowing what it's like to play the game, it does not mean there isn't a difference.

I am not judging watching LPs or telling people who do to GTFO out of fandom, I am just recognizing that there is a difference, I do not see how that is at all horrible, so calm down.

[(Anonymous)]

so calm down.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I'm not the one whining that the dirty dirty poseurs are fucking up their fandom by not enduring the trial by fire of playing a video game before participating in fandom, sweetcheeks.

[(Anonymous)]

Neither am I?????? Or are you talking about OP? Seriously, I said I wasn't judging and I am not judging. I don't know how else to say it but I seriously do not care who wants to be in fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

OK!

[(Anonymous)]

Dude, anon you replied to wasn't whining about anything.

Frankly you sound like you've gone into hyper-defensive mode. People would probably not mind as much if you weren't trying to come off as a fanfiction-writing, non-video game playing punk who totally beat the system maaan.

chill out.

[(Anonymous)]

a lot of the people in this fucking thread are all about ZOMG PLAY THE GAME FIRST LOSER, though.

not everyone can play the game.

not everyone can afford the game.

not everyone has time to play the game.

not everyone is you, cumdumpster.

and here's a clue, dickwad. I can play the games, I do play the games and there's an awful lot of entitlement going on in this thread that seems to assume it's as easy as just doing it.

so get off your fucking entitlement shit and CHILL OUT yourself, asshole. if this doesn't apply to you. hoofuckingray. butt the fuck out.

[(Anonymous)]

.. there is an obvious difference unless you lie and say you experience it
And lying to participate in fandom is sad as hell

[(Anonymous)]

Games are not the same as movies though, its not a passive experience. As anon below said, the difficulty of games and interacting with them first hand is what seperates games from other media.
Watching over someone's shoulder makes it a different experience in my opinion. Sure, you will know as much about the story and characters as the person who played it, and thats fine for writing fic, participating in fandom, etc, but to say you get exaxctly the "same experience" by watching and not playing it yourself just isn't true.