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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-18 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2086 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2086 ⌋

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Re: Why is femslash so small in most fandoms?

[personal profile] masu_trout 2012-09-19 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Different person than the anon above, but this explanation is way more nuanced and reasonable than what I thought you were going to say- a lot of the time when I see someone cite 'misogyny' as a reason for not writing femslash, they mean it in the 'If you're a women who doesn't write femslash obviously you just hate your own vagina' sense. Which is... inflammatory, and might be what anon above thought you meant with that.

Re: Why is femslash so small in most fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2012-09-19 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
lol well tbh I hadn't thought much about it until after I posted

It's really crazy to me that anyone would ever say that, about women hating their own vaginas (by which I assume you mean general womanhood). Because that kind of makes it seem like reading Het is some kind of inherently Vagina-Positive act, which is... weird?
And it really sucks as well, because I honestly think that at least for some young women part of the appeal of slash is the escape from the discomfort with their own sexuality. And discomfort isn't the same as hate or misogyny, at least imo, so trying to shame young women for liking certain kinds of erotica just sounds generally shitty.
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Re: Why is femslash so small in most fandoms?

[personal profile] masu_trout 2012-09-19 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
In fairness, I'm faaairly certain I've only heard the idea stated so directly when I'm discussing it with people in anon spaces, which allows for a certain amount of trolling and/or hyperbole. But I've been a lurker on femslash comms for a while now and read a lot of femslash meta on LJ & DW, and there's this odd sort of... undercurrent to a lot of it, I suppose? that really feels that way to me. Very few of the pieces I've read are really blatant about it, but there's definitely a trend there imo.

To me, there's two 'types' of femslash communities: femslash subcommunities within fandoms and panfandom femslash comms. Between what I mentioned above and a lot of other politics and hypocrisy that really frustrate me in the panfandom femslash places (Holy TV and Movie-centricness, Batman! and lots of policing over what kind of femslash is 'right'), I definitely prefer the latter to the former these days, even if they tend to be a lot smaller. (Though I will say it's not all that way, and there are some genuinely awesome people who are active there.)

(And yeah, I do mean general womanhood there. I should probably pick a better expression to convey that- I don't even remember where I picked that turn of phrase up.)