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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-20 07:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2088 ]


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[personal profile] gethenian 2012-09-20 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry.

Except for the part where I'm NOT.

It's not my job, as a writer, to "help represent more women in fiction." It's my job, as a writer, to tell a good story. If my writing is good, I get to further the agendas *I* want to support. That's my choice and you do not get to judge me because I use my fiction the way I want to. I'm not your tool.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-20 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
AMEN
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[personal profile] sockpants 2012-09-21 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. To paraphrase a meme, I do what I want. And I don't particularly feel like meeting some arbitrary number of women in my stories like I'm filing my goddamn taxes or something.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
This, this, this.

It's not my job as a female writer to push any agenda, least of all maintain a gender quota. If my character is female, good. If it's male, that's good too. Whatever my character is, that's what they are.

I want to tell a story and have them enjoy it, not lecture people. It feels like I can't do that without someone expecting some kind of moral or agenda, wondering what it is I'm 'trying to say'. I'm trying to say 'enjoy the story'!

(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Amen to this!

Not every story, and not every character, has to be a message.



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[personal profile] chibichan 2012-09-21 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
This.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
not that I agree with OP but

That's my choice and you do not get to judge me

people are free to judge anyone for any reason they want lbr

(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 10:27 am (UTC)(link)
And we'll dge them right back for being judgemental bores

(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, it's not anybody's job or anything, of course, but sometimes I think it would be nice if more people would look at their cast of characters and think "Does this character actually need to be male?" And in some cases the answer will be 'yes' or you really just can't visualize that character being any other way, but in other cases the answer will be 'no'. I've done that with several characters of mine in the concept stages and like them better that way. (It's also the sort of thinking that gave us Ripley in Alien).

(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes, I can see that working. But for many characters, their gender is important. From how the world reacts to them to how even the reader reacts to them, it all changes dependent on their gender. Given expectations, opportunities, and atmosphere, a person's gender can drastically affect the story. It's not something so arbitrary as changing someone's eye color from green to blue.

Not saying those changes are bad, especially since they can provide opportunities for conflict. But when you have an already-established character and an idea of how the plot will go, you'd have to a lot of work to make it fit. If a person is willing to do that, that's fine. But there are legitimate reasons not to.

Kind of off topic, but... this topic reminds me of when they changed Harry in Silent Hill (the game) to Rose for the movie adaption... I was actually pretty insulted. The very idea that the director felt it's 'feminine' to care so much about his daughter and want to find her, and that therefore he was better off as a woman... even though I'm a female, I felt that was obnoxious.
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[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2012-09-21 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, no, I have six Caucasian characters and only three Chinese characters. I better go change Quinlan's name to something more Asian even though I picked his name based solely on what it meant.

-munches popcorn-