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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-25 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #2093 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2093 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-25 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
They have songs about a lot of messed up characters, but it doesn't mean they believe the characters are right or excuse them.
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[personal profile] maverickz3r0 2012-09-25 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
This is the same band that wrote a series of songs called 'The Murder Trilogy' about a guy who got jealous when his ex started dating another guy, so he strangled her and threw her body in the water. The last song chronologically has the line 'she kicked and screamed while I held her throat' when they perform it live.

You may be reading too much into it.
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[personal profile] visp 2012-09-25 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Bzuh wha? So because some of their other lyrics are worse, this song isn't problematic? Or... I'm missing something here, right?
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[personal profile] maverickz3r0 2012-09-25 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pointing out that they're obviously not being serious--they're just telling stories, often violent ones, because that's what they do. Their band name is The Killers, and they seem to want to make it mean something. Sometimes it's dark humour.

They actually seem to be pretty good guys, on the whole.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-25 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
That the lyrics of the songs are more like short stories from the perspectives of bad characters. They aren't the only example either, there are very famous songs about murder and stalking and even rape, but it's a narrative choice. Instead of outright condemning the characters' actions they leave the judgement to the listener/reader. I mean, if the lyrics make people uncomfortable, they don't have to like the song, but there's a difference between these types of songs and actual problematic ones.
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[personal profile] visp 2012-09-25 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, like Tom Waits-esque things. Ok, that makes sense.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-09-25 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
...."problematic"? How is that problematic? It would only be "problematic" if they thought that doing those things was a good thing. It's actually possible to tell a story about a bad guy from a bad guy's POV and totally intend for him to be seen as a bad guy, you know.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-25 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
They know the guy is messed up. They mean for the guy to be messed up. The fact that the guy is messed-up is like the whole point of the song.

Seriously, there was a single living person who heard this song and didn't realize they MEANT to describe a messed-up person doing problematic things? This secret doesn't really seem troll-y, but I kinda hope it is a troll because if not, then...um...you're kind of a complete moron, OP.
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I CANNOT LISTEN TO FOLSOM PRISON BLUES

[personal profile] chardmonster 2012-09-25 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
KILLING A MAN IN RENO JUST TO WATCH HIM DIE?

HOW DARE YOU BE SO SELFISH
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Re: I CANNOT LISTEN TO FOLSOM PRISON BLUES

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-09-25 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
THAT MAN WAS A BASTARD AND HE HAD IT COMING. STOP ASSUMING.

Re: I CANNOT LISTEN TO FOLSOM PRISON BLUES

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-09-25 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
VICTIM BLAMER!
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2012-09-25 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Good songs don't necessarily have to be about good people. An artist can tell a story without siding with the characters. The lead singer of The Decemberists has a son and has written a children's novel, I don't think he sees eye to eye with the character of the rake in The Hazards of Love.
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[identity profile] spicandspan89.livejournal.com 2012-09-25 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Very good point.

(Also, a children's novel you say? That is awesome!)
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[personal profile] chaos_dragonfly 2012-09-26 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
The girl is always a blue eyed blonde because Brandon's wife is that colouring.