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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-26 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #2094 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2094 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 042 secrets from Secret Submission Post #299.
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(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
+1 so much to this comment

(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
OP
Look I just grabbed the first three *characters drawn with brown tones* who sprang to mind, because that is what the blog I'm doing is about. None of them have actually been used on my blog yet. I think perhaps you (collective) would get what I'm doing and realise I'm not actually specacularly under-informed if I linked, but I would prefer not to do that. God knows I don't want to say "but my one black friend," or anything, but I did air this all out very carefully on the black interest otaku page where the idea first came up before I dared to post anything (and judging by a quick sweep of profile images, I was the only white one there). I'm not trying to patronise anybody and suggesting that I am is kind of nuts. Maybe even racist, let's face it. It. Is. Just. A page which lists people who aren't drawn as totally pale, with the intention of helping out anybody who MIGHT want to cosplay somebody with a skin tone close to their own. I understand that not everybody DOES, which is fine, and also the entire reason I wrote a disclaimer for the blog, which is where I mentioned that I was white in order to get any possible issues out of the way.
As I have mentioned elsewhere, POC is not a term which is in common (or any) parlance in my own country; I was trying to get it right, frankly. There's an issue that since we're talking about anime, I can't say 'non-white' or 'non-caucasian,' as a lot of pale characters are still supposed to be Japanese. I would have thought POC - people of colour - would indicate characters with a tad more melanin. I guess maybe there are better terms I could have used? Maybe? But I seriously thought POC was the best PC catch-all around. :/ It's possible I've got that wrong and I apologise if in doing that I've trodden on any toes. But aside from that I don't think I'm patronising anybody, and the purpose of my blog is to aid POC cosplayers, not to tag fictional characters, plenty of whom are from fictional races, as having any specific ethnicity at all.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
And again, drawn with a darker skin tone does not make a character not white (or Japanese).

What's patronizing is that you seem to think people who aren't white are so helpless that they would need your white ass to help them find characters to cosplay. Newsflash: they're perfectly capable of doing so on their own. And that's likely what that cosplay group thought, because who the fuck are you to tell non-white people who they should want to cosplay?

(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Calm the fuck down. Its a fucking tumblr that people have the option to look at. OP isn't forcing this shit down their throats.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Because begging POC cosplay groups for approval and then accusing them of "reverse" racism when they don't respond is totally not trying to force your worldview on anybody, nope!

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
asking for affiliation = begging for approval?

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
When you turn around and cry Poor Little White Girl Tears when you don't get a response? Yes, it sounds like begging for approval to me.

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
OP
I wasn't "crying Poor Little White Girl Tears" (and honestly, can you imagine if anybody came up with a reversed version of that phrase? And what even made you assume I was young, or female?) I was, however, disuquieted by the notion that perhaps that was why I hadn't had a response, especially as the blog in question happened to link and reblog a bunch of times to a similar blog (whose purpose I've never seen brought into question) just after I asked if they'd like to hook up. I wasn't really sure what other discernable difference there was between the two pages.

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
OP
How many times to I have to state that PEOPLE WERE ASKING ABOUT IT and I HAPPENED TO BE THERE. And also that THERE IS A BIG DISCLAIMER SAYING OF COURSE PEOPLE SHOULD COSPLAY WHO THEY WANT.

Fun times, I don't feel I've ever taken a lot of stick for my race before today. I would NEVER speak to anybody the way you are. How dare you insinuate that I'm the racist one?

(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
How dare you insinuate that I'm the racist one?

Maybe, I dunno, because you're acting defensively racist? Just a thought.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Poor whitey, those nasty minorities won't let them have their way. :(

(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
OP
Seriously, read your own posts before you act like such an asshole. I'm not the one throwing around provocative language, and just because I'm in a cultural majority, doesn't mean I'm incapable of being personally offended when somebody has a go at me.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Can't tell if stupid, or really dedicated troll.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
You're not the one throwing around provocative language, because you're not the one who has to put up with this bullshit more times than you realise? How dare people get frustrated with you!

And so what if you're personally offended for being called out on your bullshit. No one's having a go at you beyond your rather characteristic typical white behaviour.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
That's a little bit racist. Just saying.

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
omg, stop. Compiling a list of POC or whatever it is OP is doing is not condescending. save your righteous indignation for real racism.

signed, a POC

(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
I think you meant -- signed, a butthurt white POC blog runner

DA

(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
>Someone disagrees with me
>THEY MUST BE WHITE

Just stop.

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
You sound white.

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
You sound whiter.

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
It's a crazy world we live in where "you sound (insert race here)" is a remotely acceptable thing to say.

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I just grabbed the first three *characters drawn with brown tones*

...This might be why people don't like your POC blog.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
OP
Actually, it's had a very good response. (I think. I'm new to tumblr.) And none of these characters have been featured (though I do plan to use them all, because two in particular are very popular with POC cosplayers, and I have some lovely photos I'd like to use). Throwing together the secret doesn't mean I've thrown together my posts. It's a pretty nice blog, I think. :)

(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not trying to patronise anybody and suggesting that I am is kind of nuts. Maybe even racist, let's face it.






Wot.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-27 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
+1 To call her racist makes one

a) insane
b) reverse-racist.


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