[ SECRET POST #2094 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2094 ⌋

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Comments

[childings.livejournal.com]

Well, if you know anything about the history of Spain you'd realize that parts of it (Córdoba) used to be a Muslim caliphate -- there are plenty of people with North African ancestry there, it's not like they all just disappeared when the country gradually went completely Christian or anything

I'm not saying it doesn't make darker skinned Spainards white but it certainly isn't as cut and dry and you want to make it (and arguments like this make it pretty obvious how socially determined race is in general -- I mean, in ancient/classical times race wasn't even a concept, people just categorized you by nationality/where you hailed from)

Are Basques white?

Also, whenever someone like you says the words "hun" "honey" "bb" I tend to discredit anything you say as being of any merit

[(Anonymous)]

The whiteness of Spaniards is especially relevant to current racial issues in the Latin American world. White privilege, skin-lightening, and a ton of racial issues exist in Latin America because of the white colonialism that went on. Skin-lightening is an especially hot topic these days.

I know that on a scientific level that race is a very flimsy concept. But in recent history, European Spaniards are considered white, have white privilege and (most importantly) they have used their white privilege to oppress non-whites.

Trying to argue that the Spaniards are not white is a huge slap in the face to anyone who has been the victim of Spanish colonialism and all the issues it's caused.

[childings.livejournal.com]

I didn't say that ALL SPAINARDS were not white. And I have a spouse who is Latino, so... uh, I am aware of these issues

[(Anonymous)]

But they didn't say Spaniards weren't white. They said that a particular Catalan character is described as being darker, looking different from other Spaniard characters, and treated as an ethnic minority. They also said that the character in the anime is drawn and coloured as a slightly darker-skinned character, and thus darker-skinned cosplayers who don't want to cosplay lighter-skinned characters might want to consider her, amond many others.

How is any of that a slap in the face to you?

[childings.livejournal.com]

Anon is probably a white American because they shut the fuck up after that comment

[(Anonymous)]

there are plenty of people with North African ancestry there, it's not like they all just disappeared when the country gradually went completely Christian or anything

Actually, they kinda did. The white, Christian Spaniards because very hostile towards the Moors and the Jews in the Medieval Era. Throughout the history of Spanish Christendom, they were constantly trying to ostracize and drive out the Moors. Most Muslims in Spain left for countries with a Muslim majority where they would be free of persecution. Those that didn't got to deal with the Spanish Inquisition.

Ugh, you can't imagine some of the nasty things I have read when I'm reviewing historical documents. The white Spaniards were not fond of the non-whites at all.

[childings.livejournal.com]

Not every Jews or Muslim fled Spain after that, many converted to Christianity but that didn't change their ethnicity at all. I have a spouse who is Jewish and Hispanic so, I know this stuff, I know that a lot fled, more were killed, but some did convert, Spain is not lily-white as others are suggesting is all I'm saying