[ SECRET POST #2096 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #2096 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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04. http://i.imgur.com/KENos.png
[True Blood; sort of porny, illustrated ... choking and spanking or something?]


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[Koi Kaze; Freefall]


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[Suits]


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[A Song of Ice and Fire]


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11. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]



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12. [SPOILERS for A Song of Ice and Fire]



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13. [SPOILERS for the Stand]



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14. [SPOILERS for Teen Wolf]



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15. [SPOILERS for Shin Megami Tensei IV]



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16. [WARNING for self-harm]

[bogglelovesyou@tumblr]


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17. [WARNING for attempted suicide and depression]

[The Walking Dead]


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18. [WARNING for suicide]















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #299.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[saiika_von_maou]

My main problem with Twilight was that the author herself thought she was writing out a pure, innocent relationship. The delusion on her part concerns me and can easily leak to impressionable people. I'm pretty sure Marilyn Manson knows how dark and disturbing his music is and what kind of negative message can be taken from it. He's putting out shock music and selling it as shock music. Stephenie Meyer is putting out a frankly disturbing relationship and selling it as true love.

Those are my thoughts.

[insanenoodlyguy]

This really.

[forgottenjester]

I agree with this.

Also, I've always wondered how she viewed her own work. I knew she had to see it as a positive but to see that confirmed is a bit... disheartening.

Do you know how she reacted to accusations of the relationship being abusive?

[saiika_von_maou]

I didn't before you asked the question, so I went and looked it up. Lol.

It seems, when presented with the question, she deviates from all arguments towards it and essentially says (though in more words), "They're not perfect and they make mistakes, but they're trying and I think they have a healthy relationship."

I'm honestly not sure what to make of it.

[forgottenjester]

Oh, I'm sorry to make you look up things!

Sounds to me like she's being evasive. This is either because a) She now understands the issues with the relationship and doesn't want to admit it or b) doesn't see what's wrong with the relationship and is saying it nicely.

[saiika_von_maou]

Oh, no worries. You got me curious, so I looked.

Evasive is exactly the right word. She always comes off as a little ignorant to me, so I'm willing to bet the latter...but I suppose she has the potential to learn just as much as anyone else.

God, this woman is like Regina George to me. She's horrible and I can't stand her but I just LOVE to talk about her. XD

[forgottenjester]

I guess we'll never know.

Regina George? As in, from Mean Girls?

[saiika_von_maou]

...yes.

[forgottenjester]

She was an interesting character. I haven't seen that movie in a while. I should watch it again.

[saiika_von_maou]

That whole movie was just really fascinating. Best I've seen when it comes to portraying the intricacies of high school cliques.

[darkmanifest]

Stephenie Meyer is putting out a frankly disturbing relationship and selling it as true love.

Actually, even if Meyer sold it as disturbing as it is, people would probably still buy it as true love, if fandom is any indication. Twilight is just a symptom of how popular culture already views romance.

[saiika_von_maou]

I don't think fandom is as much of an indication as it seems; though I could just be frequenting sane fandoms and missing a lot of the crazy. Regardless, I don't deny that some people would buy it as romance regardless, and that would be their problem. It's just MORE of a problem that the writer, who is the one sending out the problematic message, isn't admitting that it's unhealthy.

[darkmanifest]

Hm, I disagree that her admitting it's unhealthy would matter at all. It would not make anyone else who shared her inclinations - you know, the sincere fans who earned Twilight an unholy amount of money - any more able to engage their fantasies critically, which is where the problem lies.

[(Anonymous)]

If I may make a Harry Potter reference, in the Prince's Tale, when JK Rowling describes Snape's appearance when he first met Lily, she could have described him in a way that made him "unlovable", in a way that you think "ew" instead of feeling sympathy for him. But she didn't.

If Meyer had presented her story as a disturbed relationship, rather than as 'true love', there would have been a difference in reaction.

I suppose there's always some people to take it the wrong way, but there would be definitely less. It likely wouldn't be so mainstream as a Twilight fan to think it was 'true love'.

So perhaps Twilight is in part to blame. Though admittance in itself would do little to alleviate the damage already allegedly done. It would be consolation, if nothing else.