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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-29 03:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #2097 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2097 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-29 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I have my Master's Degree in English. I never mix up their, there, and they're. Or your/you're, or it's/its. But I'll be damned if I ever get effect/affect right. Where I'm from, they sound exactly the same so I never know which one I want.

Scurrying off to hide now.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-29 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Affect is Action! Effect as a verb means "to create an effect," like "to effect change." Affect as a noun means manner or tone, like "flat affect" when a person doesn't have much expression. But that one's also pronounced differently, "AF-fect." Otherwise affect is always the verb and effect is always the noun!

(Anonymous) 2012-09-29 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Effect is generally used as a noun. Affect is almost always a verb.

/shrug

I can never keep them straight either, but as long as I know whether I'm looking for a noun or verb, I can make an educated guess that is only wrong like 0.1% of the time.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2012-09-29 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
They're still spelled differently and used differently in writing. Not judging you, just saying...it's not all about how they sound (the other examples you gave are also homonyms).

This is where a good beta comes in handy, because people make mistakes and it's ok to not be perfect at conventions. But it's a good idea to have it proofread.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2012-09-29 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
"Affect/effect" sound the same in your accent?

Huh.

Does that mean "effluent" and "affluent" sound the same too? Neat.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-29 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
In my accent, the vowels at the beginning of "affect" and "effect" are both reduced to a schwa, so they sound the same unless I affect an exaggerated pronunciation for effect :) However, "affectation" doesn't start with a schwa, so this was a handy word to peg the words to, once I realised I needed to exert some effort to sort it out. They are two-syllable words with the stress on the second syllable: those first vowels don't stand a chance.

The vowels at the beginning of "Affluent" and "Effluent" carry the main stress, so they don't reduce to schwas, so they sound different to each other.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2012-09-29 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
unless I affect an exaggerated pronunciation for effect :)

Lol, brilliant. Anons who are confused about it should read this sentence over and over.

Oh, interesting. The latter half of "affect/effect" also carry the main stress when I say them, but only "affect" reduces, "effect" retains the same pronunciation as "effluent". Mind you, I've also heard people said "ee-ffect", though I wonder if that isn't precisely in order to differentiate between the two.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-30 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
you sound like an accent-cousin of mine :)

(Anonymous) 2012-09-29 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG It's me again. You'd think having studied English, I could have read this secret. Of course I know the difference between except/accept!!! Or expect/accept? Either way, I failed to read the secret correctly.

Affect/effect will haunt me to my grave. And I do have the world's best beta who kindly points out every time I do it wrong.
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[personal profile] szarburus 2012-09-29 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
effect/affect gets me every time. I always have to sit and think about it for a few seconds before I can work out which one it is.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-01 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
That's one that always gets me - I can see how it *would* be an easy mistake, but I don't have any problem telling them apart, so a misuse jumps out at me.

On the other hand, I'm terrible with emphasize/empathize. This makes no sense because the meanings of the words are nothing alike, but every time I want to use one I literally have to deconstruct the spellings to remember which one is similar to 'sympathize' so I know whether that's the one I want.