[ SECRET POST #2097 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2097 ⌋

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Comments

[ariakas]

For me it's should've/should "of". The latter is a clear sign that the person in question not only never enunciates, but has never read a book in their entire fucking lives.

Followed by close runner up, confusing "then" and "than". Especially if it happens consistently throughout the entire work/comment.

[(Anonymous)]

I suspect those people are aiming for (and missing) should've/would've/could've. How they ended up thinking it's 'should OF' is beyond me though. Like you said, have they ever read a book?

One that drives me bonkers is "my husband and I's anniversary" or "my friend and I's vacation". "I's" isn't a word; it's "my"! Freaking morons.

[(Anonymous)]

See, I can understand how this one happens, because the correct usage is "My husband's and my anniversary" which is both counter-intuitive and also sounds funny in spoken English. People, I find, are not used to that level of complexity, where you actually think about each element of a sentence; they tend to regard things as units and not to think about them in any other way. So it is an error that is less offensive to me than others, I guess.

[(Anonymous)]

But "I's" isn't a word - that's what gets me. "My husband and my anniversary" is clunky, I agree, so I think people are better off rewriting that sentence and using "our" rather than trying to make it sound better with "I's".

[(Anonymous)]

This was discussed here:
http://tomatonation.com/vine/the-vine-november-9-2011/
(Fun website to poke around if you're the type to grit your teeth about grammar issues)
And I agree with their verdict of cases like your example being an overcorrection.

[nursethalia]

What I can't stand is when you use the term "my husband's and my (whatever)" and someone corrects you, saying, "It's my husband's and I!". Then when you try to explain that you were correct in your statement, they get insulted and say, "No, my teacher would always correct me and say, "It's always so-and-so and I", never "so-and-so and me!""

They focus on one instance and then forget the rest of the rules of grammar.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. The annoying thing is that it makes no fucking sense. There's no possible rationalization of that, it's just a lack of thought about the words one is using. "Should of." That's just terribly annoying.

[forgottenjester]

While I agree it's proper English I don't see a problem with people not "enunciating it correctly" because really? That's what the accent where I live sounds like. "Should've" and "Should of" sound exactly alike. You're shitting on a lot of people's natural accent. Thanks.

I'm not saying it should ever be used in writing unless someone is writing such an accent in dialogue though. Even then, writing dialogue is tricky so people should tread with caution there.

[ariakas]

I recognize that they sound very similar/identical in many accents. Hence why I specified "enunciating" and "reading" as the methods of having ever heard it correctly - I realize that in casual speech they sound the same in many dialects, obviously, and in fact clearly posited that as the source of the error. I'm not "shitting on a lot of people's natural accent".

I'm shitting on their ignorance of basic English and/or illiteracy.

[forgottenjester]

Ah, thank you for a clarification. Sorry I interpreted what you wrote wrong.

Also, sorry I pissed you off. That was not my intention.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe you just weren't clear in your last comment, but I kind of missed your specification between 'enunciating' and 'reading'. So, in case I'm not being clear: it did sound like you were ripping on somebody for their accent.

[(Anonymous)]

in my children's literacy class, we talk a lot about how you can tell whether or not a kid reads, whether on their own or with their parents, because of the way they spell certain words/phrases. kids who read rarely write "should of" because they visually see the correct spelling as "should've" while children who rarely read are only used to hearing it and thus hear the contraction as "of"

[forgottenjester]

I think that makes sense. I would also probably want to see a study on it, just in case. The reason being because I'm a huge reader, I have to be, and sometimes stumble upon it myself. It doesn't happen often but the rare occasion does happen. So I'm just wondering if I'm just an outlier or what. Granted, as far as I know I've always caught it in my editing phase.

But yeah, I can totally see what you're saying.

(I don't know if this is relevant or not because I'm unsure of the reasons for you telling me this but just in case: I was mostly commenting to ariakas's statements on purely spoken dialects/accents. Not whether we should correct those who write it wrong. I apparently misunderstood what they were saying on that front. I thought they were directly attacking the accent. However, I misunderstood them. So it sounds like I'm arguing for a change in grammatical written structure but I'm not.

Unless you told me this for other reasons?)

[nursethalia]

"should/could/would OF" drives me insane!