[ SECRET POST #2097 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2097 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I'm going to continue to disagree. That entry claims that "Similar 'merged' words such as altogether and already have been accepted in standard English for a very long time, so there is no logical reason to object to the one-word form alright." But there is a logical reason to object to "alright": namely, that although "altogether" and "all together" are etymologically connected, according to modern usage they have discrete meanings, as do "already" and "all ready." By contrast, "all right" and "alright" are indistinguishable in meaning. Only one of them needs to exist, and I think that "all right" has the stronger claim...and that it doesn't hurt my soul. :-)

As to focusing on the things we can still change: I'm pretty sure that trying to get people to use loose/lose (and lead/led, breath/breathe, lie/lay/laid, etc.) correctly is a similarly futile effort. There are millions of people in online fandom, after all, and most of them don't care about grammar. But, hey, if you think you're able to effect change in your corner of fandom, then I think that's genuinely awesome. Keep fighting the good fight!

[(Anonymous)]

Sure they have different meanings:

"You got the answers all right."

"Did you find my house alright?"

And it's not like English has a rule about "one meaning, one spelling, one pronunciation": variation is fine. "Alright" is pretty standard in the UK: I was taught it as a spelling in school. We all spelt it that way ;)

[ariakas]

Lol, hive!vagina.

[ariakas]

I don't agree. The merger of "all right" to "alright" does resemble "all together" and "altogether" in terms of having a distinct meaning in some usage.

"In this case, nobody is wrong. You're all right."

"He only bruised it. He'll be alright."

The dual usage of "all right" to mean both "okay" and "all of these are correct" actually provides less clarity than using "alright" for former and reserving "all right" for the latter. In this way it does very closely resemble "altogether"/"all together".

Sorry, going to have to go with Oxford on this one, anon. They're correct.

[(Anonymous)]

Good point; "all right" and "alright" are not always synonymous (though they can be, unlike the other pairs in that entry), so I was wrong when I said that the use of "alright" was inherently illogical.

On the other hand, the entry ultimately does advise people to write "all right" as two separate words, and I'm going to cling to that advice. (It specifies doing so in formal writing, but I personally think that writing intended for publication--including online publication in a fannish community--qualifies.) I may be less wrathful when others opt to do otherwise, however. (In fact, I hope I am. "Alright" is fingernails-on-a-chalkboard annoying to me, and I encounter it everywhere. It would be very nice if it bothered me less.)

[ariakas]

lol, it's "everywhere" because it's not only taught as correct in English classes across the globe (unlike led/lead, loose/lose, should've/should of, etc.) it's considered acceptable use by the world's foremost authority on the language. It's really, really not in any way comparable to the grammatical errors you listed.

OED recommends against using it in formal writing, though, not because it's incorrect, or even less correct, but because some people (illogically) "dislike" it. That's hardly a condemnation of the word. I'd personally advise against advising against the use of "alright" in fannish communities because they're not wrong - you are ;p