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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-29 03:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #2097 ]


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[personal profile] elaminator 2012-09-30 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
IDK what to say to this other than I don't believe watching Stewart & Colbert makes me well informed about the world at large. It's one hour...they could never fit everything there is to know in one hour, even if they were inclined too (and they aren't). That's why we have 24 hour news networks, even if those channels are specific in what they cover too. However, if you want to know what's going on in America, I think Colbert and Stewart do a damn good job of covering some of the more important topics.

And lets face it, not everyone has oodles of time to watch the news/scour the web for news every day. And even if they did, would they? An interest in politics is a very healthy thing imo, but just because someone starts watching these shows for the lol's doesn't mean they can't gain some deeper curiosity about politics that they might further pursue.

And I worry about the fact that people weren't interested in the news before Stewart & Colbert made it funny.

Some people. I personally said I wasn't as interested, which is different. I do get what you're saying, but the fact is for many people politics are intimidating and they don't know where to start; they can quickly become overwhelmed. (Not saying that should necessarily stop people, but it can be an issue.) And, some people just hate the vitriol that political conversations seem to bring. Again, I'm not saying it isn't good to stay informed, because of course it is; but everyone has their own reasons for doing so or not doing so, and what are you going to do, force them to get involved?

Colbert and Stewart might be far from unbiased, but from what I've seen they do as good a job of bringing facts into their programs as real news networks. (Maybe better, in some cases.)

(Anonymous) 2012-09-30 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah and let me be clear here - I really wasn't trying to get angry at people or call anyone out, and if that's the way it came across I apologize. What I'm trying to say is that it's kind of worrying that a pair of comedy shows are legitimately more thoughtful and better sources of news than most news programming in the United States, that it's worrying that politics is so depressing and so alienating and so full of hostility, and that even the more thoughtful popular news sources are still full of unconscious bias and present a very selective understanding of the world.

That shit is legitimately worrying to me. But it's definitely not the fault of any news consumer and I don't intend to try and make anyone feel guilty for not being better informed - I'm just saying, I guess, that these are legitimately negative things about the media culture in America that lead to people being poorly informed.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2012-09-30 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
No need to apologize! I seem to have misunderstood your intent, and am now realizing my comment sounded pretty hostile. Sorry about that!

What I'm trying to say is that it's kind of worrying that a pair of comedy shows are legitimately more thoughtful and better sources of news than most news programming in the United States, that it's worrying that politics is so depressing and so alienating and so full of hostility, and that even the more thoughtful popular news sources are still full of unconscious bias and present a very selective understanding of the world.

I agree. Not going to say I don't ever enjoy programs where there's a clear bias (some of MSNBC's coverage) because I'd be lying, but you're correct in that most news media is biased in one way or another. Of course I can see how that can be troubling, but at this point it just seems impossible that anything is ever going to change that. I suppose I've gotten used to the idea.