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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-01 06:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #2099 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-10-02 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I never used the word Zionist. I'm also not really sure if you're criticizing me, but I agree with what you're saying (anti-Jewish sentiment is also not considered PC in my country). My position on Israel has more to do with the actions of Israeli citizens against the Bene and Beta Israel, the fact that absolutely everything my country does in the Middle East is partially dictated by Israel yet Israel doesn't consider the US when making foreign policy decisions, the treatment of the Palestinians and the way the Israelis went about getting their land, and the reasons for supporting the two state system.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-02 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I was talking more in general terms and out of my own personal frustration at how much antisemitism is entrenched in a lot of the criticism of Israel and often drowns out legitimate criticism of Israel, not specifically reacting to what you said. I replied to your post because your post was about criticism of Israel - like I said, it's important and I agree it's important, but we can't bury our head in the sand. I hate blanket statements but this is one case I feel justified in making them - most people who criticise Israel have no clue what they're talking about and that is a good enough reason to start questioning what's behind their positions.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-02 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, are you the same person who cannot differentiate between the very real and terrible crimes Israel is committing and what the Nazis did? Yeah, sorry, you're one of the people who have no clue what they're talking about and I WAS referring to people like you.

If you feel justified to compare Israel to the Nazis, it's time to check what's behind a lot of your beliefs. I'll give you a hint - they're not about historical accuracies and not even about the crimes Israel is committing.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-02 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
I never said that. You should check the thread again.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-02 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
Are these your words?

You're implying that there is a dissonance between "literal Nazis" and the stuff Israel pulls on a daily basis. The NSDAP was fueled on hatred for the humiliation other countries had served them, many of its early policies were based in revenge for the same as well as class differences, and it eventually indulged in religious and racial-based genocide and apartheid. There's not a huge amount of difference between your average "literal Nazi" and the Israeli government.

If so then yes, you did say that. That's why I asked if you're the same anon.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-02 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
No, they're not.