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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-03 05:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2101 ]


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On swearing in front of children

(Anonymous) 2012-10-04 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I know no one's going to read this because it's already past noon, but I need to vent.

I overheard an acquaintance say that she thinks swearing in front of children (not at them, but in their presence) is a form of child abuse.

Really. You lie to your kids about all kinds of things, from Santa to where babies come from, but you think a stranger saying the word fuck in public is abusive? As someone whose parents lied to them repeatedly throughout childhood, I differ, oh, so much do I differ.

It's just a word. It's just a meaningless intensifier. Tell me, honey, a more efficient way to say, oh, "Fuck you." You can't do it, can you? You cannot get the same meaning across in the same way with as few words.

Yes, some words are offensive, directly harmful to certain groups of people, and should not be used. But fuck? Is only offensive to uptight anglophones who are more interested in policing other people's speech and thought than they are real issues.

"People who swear lack creativity," is what you tell your kids about swearing. It's the only thing you tell them about swearing. Tell me, then, a more creative meaningless intensifier. Tell me how "frig" or "darn" or "heck" are more creative. Go on, do it. You can't, because, oh wait, you lack creativity.

And apparently any form of reasoning ability.

Re: On swearing in front of children

(Anonymous) 2012-10-04 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
That you are looking for a meaningless intensifier to use in all situations is what indicates a lack of creativity and thinking-on-your-feet.

Swearing around children can be emotionally abusive, just like getting angry and shouty around them (even if not at them) can be emotionally abusive. Children find aggression much more frightening than many people seem to think, and swearing is generally aggressive. The point of swearing is that you use taboo words to express intense emotion, and in turn (provided you keep the words fairly taboo) indicate your extreme emotion and also relieves anger and pain. Only works if you hardly ever do it.

"Fuck you" is an extremely aggressive phrase, and is likely to upset children quite a lot, even if not directed at them. It can indeed be abusive, and I think you generally intend it to abuse, yes?