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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-05 05:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2103 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2103 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Derren Brown - Trick of the Mind]


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[Quantum Leap]


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[Necessary Roughness]


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07. http://imageshack.us/a/img811/3861/tumblrm9siebsjna1rym8lc.jpg
[nudity which is possibly sexual? / illustrated]


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[Team Starkid]


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[Teen Wolf]


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[Evangelion]


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[High School of the Dead]


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15. [SPOILERS for Teen Wolf]



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16. [SPOILERS for Everything Burns/Journey Into Mystery]



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17. [SPOILERS for To Boldly Flee]



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18. [SPOILERS for Lord of the Rings]



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19. [SPOILERS for Homestuck]



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20. [WARNING for rape]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #300.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-06 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not at all certain that Sterek will become canon, but I'm at least a little bit optimistic. There've been background gay characters and one supporting gay character on Teen Wolf already, and MTV was one of the first networks to feature an openly gay man with AIDS in its programming (Pedro Zamora of The Real World: San Francisco). This in no way guarantees that Sterek--or any other gay couple--will become canonical, of course. But I do think that it opens up the possibility that Teen Wolf will go ahead and take that chance if MTV and/or Jeff Davis thinks it might be well-received.

I know they've purposefully hinted that Stiles is bi, but so far his main romantic connection is to Lydia. Even if they did decide to go for canon Sterek, they'd have to find a way to wrap up that storyline, as to not disrespect the storytelling so far.

His main romantic interest is in Lydia; "connection" implies that she's interested back, which really doesn't seem to be the case. And, sure, they should wrap up Stiles's unrequited love storyline, regardless of whether he gets involved with anyone else, but I don't see why that should be considered a difficult task. Unless Davis plans to draw out the triangle indefinitely, then at some point in the show, Lydia will fall out of love with Jackson and/or Stiles will fall out of love with Lydia and/or one of those three characters will die (or die again, in Jackson's case). Any or all of those seem to me like things that could reasonably occur...though, as someone who likes all three characters, I'm really hoping that the last item doesn't happen.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-06 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
It's possible! And I really would love it if it happened. The casual way the show portrays homosexuality as normal is totally wonderful and I think that is a sign that the showrunners at least wouldn't reject the idea of making it canon out of their own homophobia. Nevertheless, I still feel like that while it is a possibility, it's so uncertain that I'm not going to be optimistic or pessimistic, I'm just going to wait and see.

"connection" implies that she's interested back

Not the connotation I intended, but okay, I'll go with "interest" if that works better. And no, wrapping it up wouldn't be difficult, but do they want to? I don't know how far these writers plan ahead, but if I had worked out a few years of plot that included Styles/Lydia, I think I'd be reluctant to discard it, and I could understand the writers' choice to keep heading in the original direction if that is what they choose to do.

I'm not arguing it's impossible -- however fandom seems way too convinced it's inevitable.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-06 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

The casual way the show portrays homosexuality as normal is totally wonderful and I think that is a sign that the showrunners at least wouldn't reject the idea of making it canon out of their own homophobia.

Jeff Davis, Teen Wolf's show creator, executive producer, and head writer, is gay himself, so I truly hope he wouldn't reject the idea out of his own homophobia. (I didn't mention his being gay as a point in Sterek's favor before because there are too many counterexamples like Sherlock, which Mark Gatiss's involvement hasn't prevented from being a hot mess as far as depiction of queer characters is concerned. But I don't think that's due to Gatiss's internalized homophobia, but rather to other tl;dr reasons, and I'm pretty sure the same is/would be true of Davis, if he indeed never comes through with a fully-fledged queer relationship on Teen Wolf.)

Re: Stiles/Lydia. I'm pushing back extra hard on this idea because I'm annoyed and a bit creeped out by the prevalence of "You Belong with Me"-type relationship dynamics in popular media. I've seen some people argue that Stiles's sense of entitlement regarding Lydia is borderline abusive, which I disagree with. I'd say the way he talks about and acts towards her is more one part easily seen through bravado, one part humorous self-deprecation, and one part regular teenaged self-centeredness. But I really don't want to see his expectations facilely validated by the show. If they do end up together, I'd only want it to be after huge amounts of character growth for both Stiles and Lydia, and after Stiles had had a relationship with someone else and Lydia herself had had at least one post-Jackson relationship (real relationships, not I'm-dating-you-to-try-to-forget-my-actual-true-love relationships), and after the show had adequately demonstrated why Lydia would become interested in Stiles despite happily ignoring him for years. All of which, frankly, I don't trust Davis and the other Teen Wolf writers to do at all well, so I'm hoping they sidestep the entire issue and have Stiles get over his crush.
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[identity profile] sensualcoco.livejournal.com 2012-10-06 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Or they could wrap it up with Stiles/Jackson/Lydia.

Just a suggestion that should definitely happen

(Anonymous) 2012-10-06 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Oh, man, if they actually wrote a serious poly relationship onto Teen Wolf (or really any mainstream media show), I don't think my joy could be textually rendered. I'm more of a Danny\Jackson/Lydia or a Jackson\Lydia/Allison shipper than I am a fan of Stiles/Jackson/Lydia, but I wouldn't even care; representation matters a lot more to me than shipping preferences. I mean, it's never going to happen. :-( But if it did, it would be epic.