[ SECRET POST #2104 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2104 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

But why does the author decide that these things would become weak and fall apart rather than women stepping up to fill the gaps and staying strong?

[(Anonymous)]

I've never read the thing everyone's talking about, but I'm going to come argue about this anyway. So!

I'm sure the women would step up and fill the gaps, because humans are surprisingly resilient and it's not like they're incapable of doing so. I'm confident those skill disparities mentioned above would be dealt with. The problem is that in the meantime, there are gaps, because people generally can't take up new roles instantaneously.

But really there would be a period of total chaos if any 50% of the population keeled over.

[(Anonymous)]

Because it makes sense? People can't just become trained soldiers and politicians overnight. Women will fill those jobs, eventually, but it will take time. Think, for example, of North and South Korea- do you imagine that if all the men were to die that would mean world peace? Nope, those will still be enemy countries, but the one with more trained women will suddenly have the upper hand.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, that's what does happen. Eventually. But in Y: the Last Man, at least, all men die instantaneously. So on top of losing a good portion of the experienced workforce, all women everywhere also out of nowhere lose their fathers, brothers, sons, friends, and so on. So it takes a while for people to come out of their shock, and in the meantime, things like powerplants go down,and planes crash, not to mention the 3 billion bodies lying in the streets for however long it takes for people to reorganize and deal with it. A lot of the comic actually does deal with how different groups of women and different governments get back to functioning and moving on. But when half of the world dies all of a sudden? yeah, there's gonna be chaos and things falling apart for a while.

[(Anonymous)]

Also, at the start it wasn't completely apparent that it was only men dying. All the surviving women first had to wonder if the plague was going to hit them too or not.

But yeah, the world of women pulls together eventually. It's a realistic touch that grief has as much of an impact (like what's shown in Australia) as it does.

[(Anonymous)]

*insert Rosie the Riveter .jpg here*

[lilacsigil]

The comic is about exactly that - things briefly fall apart (because half the population suddenly died and the streets are filled with bodies) then everyone who's left steps up and takes over. Some places - women's prisons, Congress, farms, medical services - did pretty well, others - power plants, oil refineries, some countries' armed forces - didn't.

[ariakas]

Oh hey, there's a neat thought. All of the men suddenly die, and now only those nations that allow women into the military in large numbers, and in combat positions, have a shot at defending themselves.

Suddenly Israel's position in the Middle East doesn't seem so precarious anymore.

[lilacsigil]

Yes, that was addressed - there were a large number of Israeli soldier characters. And Australia was suddenly the only country we saw with working submarines. (IRL a few Scandinavian countries, Germany and Canada have female submarine crews too.)

[ariakas]

IRL Canada has women in all combat infantry positions, including armour, too. Has since the '80s.

Make for a strange dynamic in North America. The US military has way more female soldiers, but none of them are in combat arms. They don't even take artillery positions or drive tanks. Not that I think anyone need fear the great Canadian invasion, but that would be one hell of a shakeup.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't understand what you and people like you are trying to argue. You're getting hung up on the "only women are left" thing.

Things would go to hell if half the world suddenly died. Doesn't matter if it's all the men who died, or all the women who died, or a mixture of both. A disaster of that magnitude would, by its very nature, cause chaos. Look what happens when minor natural disasters occur. Look what happens when social unrest hits a tipping point. There's rioting and looting and something akin to anarchy. You think that, at a bare minimum, that kind of shit wouldn't happen if a fuck-ton of people just suddenly dropped dead? Eventually everyone calms down, sure, but then you've got to pick up the pieces, and that takes time.

Acknowledging that cold reality does not mean that women can't handle themselves.