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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-07 03:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2105 ]


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[personal profile] brightblueink 2012-10-07 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
...Wait, but I don't know of any authors known to have started as fanficcers, or books that started as fanfic, that are generally considered to be higher quality than typical published work.

In fact, I've seen some poor writing tropes and style choices actively encouraged by fandoms in fanfic sometimes. So, uhhhhh...

Yeah, nope, I think fanfic can be good practice but it's not automatically so.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-07 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I know of two published authors who started out in fanfic who are pretty damn good.

I also know of at least two who started out in fanfic who are... not so good.

And then there are the professional works which are really obviously fanfic with the serial numbers rubbed off. Most of those are also not what I would call outstanding in quality, although they can be entertaining.
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[personal profile] brightblueink 2012-10-07 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
out of curiosity, which two are you thinking of? And maybe a recommended first book? I'm trying to get back into reading more so I'm always on the hunt for new books to read...

(Anonymous) 2012-10-07 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Lois Bujold wrote Star Trek fic a loooong time ago. If you haven't read the Vorkosigan series, The Vor Game is a good starting point. The second one I'm thinking of is Martha Wells. She has a number of standalones, or you could start with The Death of the Necromancer, or The Cloud Roads.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-07 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, really? Lois Bujold's fantasy stuff is an auto-buy for me. Didn't know she started out in ST fandom.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-07 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I think it was Star Trek. Something that was around a long time ago before she was published.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-07 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

It was Star Trek. I read something she wrote - I think it was an introduction to a book of her short stories (which I had borrowed from a friend because it contained a Sherlock Holmes pastiche) - where she discusses how she wrote Trek fanfic as a teenager and she and her friend even printed up a fanzine. IIRC, one of her stories was about two original characters - a human woman and Klingon man - and her first Vorkosigan novel was loosely based on this.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-08 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
sa

I think the book with the introduction was Dreamweaver's Dilemma, btw.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-08 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
And Naomi Novik, who wrote the Temeraire series, started off writing slash fanfic. She's really supportive of fanfic in general, too.
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[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2012-10-08 11:42 am (UTC)(link)
I was just about to mention her. Naomi Novik is awesome.

There are actually a bunch of authors who got their start in fanfic, but it seems to be only the last few years that any are really talking about it in any depth. Particularly in SFF, with the whole thing with Marion Zimmer Bradley back in the 90s, fanfic has had a bad rep.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-07 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Naomi Novik wrote slash fanfiction before she wrote her books, and her books are pretty damn good.

On the other hand, 50 Shades of Grey was originally fanfiction, so writing fanfic first doesn't really beget quality writing.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-07 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Naomi Novik's writing is terrible. Purely stylistically, her style is worse than that in the average fanfic.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-08 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
I've never read any Naomi Novik, but stylistic preferences are just that -- preferences.
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[personal profile] pelespen 2012-10-08 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
The ones I know of aren't YA authors, so there's that.
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[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2012-10-08 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
I believe Sarah Reese Brennan got her start in fanfic and she's a YA author. I haven't read hers but my partner loves them, and she's written some pretty awesome essays on YA.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-08 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
yes, she started out in hp and her stories were amazing

I think they are still good stories today