[ SECRET POST #2105 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2105 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 107 secrets from Secret Submission Post #301.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'd recommend not reading FFRants/TV Tropes for writing advice, actually. It may have changed since then, but last time I checked, the majority of FFRants posts were people harping on insignificant details in a fic that were annoying only to them, while the other posts were taken over by derails and arguments that had little to do with the topic originally discussed. TV Tropes is more like a catalog of "things that happen in fiction", with little to no discussion of why these devices are (or aren't) so effective, leading a lot of beginning writers who use the site to just mix and match a bunch of tropes and think that makes a good story. Also, the site's focus on fetishistic elements is really fucking creepy, although I've heard some of those pages have been recently purged or altered.

I'm not at all saying these sites should be avoided entirely, because they can be a good way to discover new books/series or just to waste a couple hours, and sometimes they bring up good points. But you have to wade through a lot of shit to get there. I think a better way to improve one's writing would be through reading a wider range of literature and discovering what works, rather than writing to fit within the preferences of one group of people online.

[(Anonymous)]

I both agree and disagree. FFRants is mostly complaining about small details, autocorrect or homonym mistakes, Britpicking (very, very rarely Ameripicking), and YMMV rants. TVTropes is just a list of tropes, so the most it's going to teach you is how to recognize and write cliches.

BUT FFRants' comments can teach you quite a lot about touchy subjects, bring out the douchiest of the SJW douches, and occasionally starts interesting discussions with halfway intelligent contributors. TVTropes can show you what is and isn't popular, and what makes a work appealing to many audiences.