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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-11 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2109 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2109 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-12 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Two points: Characters should react to the world they're immersed in, not necessarily to canon, and the plot should get convoluted. Maybe you should stick to short stories.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-12 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, this exactly the problem that the OP is pointing out.

Just because it's a long!fic doesn't mean that the characters should stop acting canonically and that the plot needs to go everywhere. That doesn't make any sense. If you're going to do this, then please, please stick to OC's and quit ruining canon characters.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-12 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
What?

Why is the plot getting convoluted a good thing?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-12 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
exactly

convoluted is not the same as complicated.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-12 12:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Your first point is valid; your second is not.

Are you perhaps confusing "convoluted" with "complex?" Because yes, the plot of a novel is usually going to be more complex than that of a short story. As a function of its length, it's going to have more twists and turns and more scenes devoted to either character development or world-building. But that does not mean that it's going to be convoluted.

Convoluted plots are bad. They're rife with inconsistencies and contrivances, and they amble along without there being any hint of a plan (even if you're a pantser rather than a plotter, you've got to at least make it look like you have a plan). They are a sign of bad writing, regardless of a story's length.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-12 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but while people react to their circumstances, not everyone will have the identical reaction to the same circumstances. So the characters' reactions to the world they're immersed in should arise organically from the underlying character that they had in canon--that would be character development. As an example: maybe an author thinks that character X should have PTSD after all he's been through--and maybe he should. But the way the condition manifests itself should be based on what Character X is like in canon--it's not one size fits all.