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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-13 03:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2111 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2111 ⌋

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[personal profile] truxillogical 2012-10-13 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's really the other way around: Being Captain America doesn't make Steve's opinion the moralist high ground; Steve's strong moral compass is what makes him Captain America.

I'm hit or miss in the comics, but in the movies, it seems pretty clear that what makes him a hero worth respecting isn't the costume or what he stands for on stage, it's what he personally stands for and believes in.
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[personal profile] maverickz3r0 2012-10-14 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much. I always considered that Cap was one of those characters who is the hero, the outfit's not really a costume because he doesn't actually change when he puts it on.

Granted I've only seen the movies, but based on what I've heard of the comics lately I'm glad of that.
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[personal profile] truxillogical 2012-10-14 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno, there have been some comics worth picking up. Brubaker's run on Captain America (and Cap & Bucky) is pretty stellar stuff, from what I've read. Also, there is Chris Samnee art, which is always a plus (I've never read a bad book with his art).

If you're mostly familiar with the movies, I can't rec Fraction/Aja's new Hawkeye series enough--it's very fun, nicely paced, beautiful art, and continuity-light for those of us who aren't familiar with every crazy thing that's happened to every crazy character in Marvel's history.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-10-14 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
Fraction

OMG did the moon fall out of the sky yesterday?

I haven't read his Hawkeye series or heard anything about it at all, but I despise Fraction with every fiber of my being for his ability to utterly destroy characters and put them through a very generic and distinctive patented Douchebaggifier (to steal a term from yesterday's AvX secret), so I'm utterly boggled at this news. Seriously? He actually wrote something good? I need to hear how this was accomplished.
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[personal profile] truxillogical 2012-10-14 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, if the guy who wrote an excellent book with a sensitive, gender-and-racially balanced team like Generation X can turn around and give us (*sigh*) Red Hood And The Outlaws, surely the reverse can happen, right?

Okay, I'm not actually that familiar with Fraction's work prior to this, so I don't have much of an opinion on him. Everyone was hyped about him, but I picked it up to see what the deal was with Clint.

And I love it.

It's only two issues in, I'll grant you, so it's early days yet. But each of those two issues is its own self-contained story (something I wish happened more often in superhero comics). Clint kind of reminds me of Harry Dresden (which may or may not be your cuppa, but every time I finish a Dresden Files book, I feel like I just had coffee and an eight-hour catch-up with an old buddy), just in his dialogue and motivations.

And then there's David Aja's art.

I could write sonnets.

Aja has such an amazing graphic sense, just this perfect ability to draw exactly what tells the story and conveys the character. I'm a sucker for artists who use precise spot-blacks over "billions of lines everywhere!" I'm a sucker for good flat coloring in comics too, over the "everything's SHINY!"

So far, it's a fresh, quiet, simple book about this guy who's...just this guy, y'know. And also Kate. Who is nifty. And there's a dog.

YMMV, of course, but if you can get part your loathing of Fraction (and I know the feeling. I still haven't read/watched Walking Dead because when it was getting popular I was still mad at Kirkman for Ultimate X-men), I highly recommend picking up the first issue and giving it a shot (ba-dum tsshh!). The only other mainstream book I'm enjoying this much these days is Daredevil (see above: Samnee can do no wrong).
Edited 2012-10-14 08:14 (UTC)
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-10-14 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Your description of the art alone sold me on it, and I'll trust your taste on the writing since I've never read The Dresden Files *adds to list*

Oh you know, I've actually been meaning to check out Daredevil for a while now because of the things I've heard, so I think I'll add that too ;)
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-10-14 08:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'm wiht truxillogical here. I know Fraction has done some SHIT before, but New Hawkeye, out of nowhere, he got right.
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[personal profile] cassandraoftroy 2012-10-14 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's really the other way around: Being Captain America doesn't make Steve's opinion the moralist high ground; Steve's strong moral compass is what makes him Captain America.

This. Exactly this, 100%, all of it.

One of the things I love so much about Steve is that he's a subversion of the asshole-American-who-thinks-he-knows-best trope. That he's a genuinely good guy who actually lives up to the hype (and is probably a little embarrassed by the hype). He was everything a superhero ought to be before he ever became a superhero.