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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-14 03:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2112 ]


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[personal profile] visp 2012-10-14 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
When I was 13 I told my mom that the Backstreet Boys were better than the Beatles. We all have some shitty entertainment opinions and preferences some time in our past. The important thing is that you learn.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
In three years you'll be posting here and saying the same about your current fandoms.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-10-14 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Good for you! You have rejoined us, and we are happy to have you back, saved at last!

(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Former TwiBNF (for about 15 minutes) here too! I wonder if we passed each other in the fandom at any point? I try not to be too embarrassed that I was into it. It was fun, I made friends, deeply analayzed the books with other enthusiastic people and realized the source material was shit, then got absolutely horrified by BD and ran for the hills, and now all that's left is to sell my signed copies for a mint on ebay right before this Christmas.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
OP I know a lot of people who grew out of Twilight, you aren't alone.
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I used to think Twilight was brilliant

[personal profile] feotakahari 2012-10-14 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought it was the story of two psychologically damaged individuals alternately helping and hurting each other, and I thought it would end with them eventually developing something close to a healthy relationship. When I learned that Meyer already considered it a healthy relationship, I pretty much flipped my lid.

Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
You are fucking awesome.

Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh lawd I think I love you.
That's a pretty awesome alternate interpretation of the series, though.
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Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

[personal profile] cloud_riven 2012-10-14 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I know, right? Well, I wasn't angry or upset or whatever, but I was completely baffled when I found out Meyer considers it ideal, or that the fandom people thought so too.

I honestly thought it was written by someone who probably wrote fanfiction, and just wanted to write out a bunch of kinks and have fun or whatever. Oh, Meyer. Why'd you break my heart like that :(
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Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

[personal profile] tyger66 2012-10-14 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
When I read the first book I felt the same way! But then the second book completely skeeved me out because I realized, like you, that Meyer bought into her own twisted idea of a "perfect relationship".
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Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

[personal profile] insolentwitch 2012-10-14 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I got really skeeved by Imprinting, that wrecked it for me. I didn't know she thought the relationship was ideal though, that is... disturbing. I thought it was all supposed to seem messed up. I read it the same way anon above did.
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Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

[personal profile] tyger66 2012-10-14 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I stopped reading after the second book, so I only know about the imprinting thing from the wikipedia entries I read on the last two books, but HOLY SHIT that was so fucked up, jesus fucking christ.
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Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

[personal profile] insolentwitch 2012-10-15 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it really was. That whole book was really messed up. The pregnancy and delivery were also really disturbing. It was full of Fridge Horror too... so much more about the series became problematic only after I'd put the books down. But Imprinting was the worst part of it all for me. I doubt there's anyway that Wikipedia could have exaggerated it. You're lucky you didn't actually read that book. (Unless you love problematic trainwrecks.)
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Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2012-10-14 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I would read that story.
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Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

[personal profile] leikomgwtfbbq 2012-10-14 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
The obnoxious thing about Twilight is that it *did* have potential. There are about a million different angles at which it could have been brilliant vampire-fiction. Could have been a beautiful story about love and redemption and humanity. Could have been a horror story about Edward's inner (and outer) monster. Could have been a psychological horror story about Bella always charging towards what she knows is bad for her, and how she gets her thrills off of engaging what is bad for her. Could have been a fascinating Natural Born Killers-type story.

The Cullens even had potential as individual protagonists in their own stories. I'm still really interested in the Civil War guy and how he adapted over time, because 150 years has brought a lot of social change--how does a guy who grew up in the 1840s-1850s feel about that? I'm interested in how the Cullens came to be a family. How did they find each other? How did they bond with each other? Let's explore this, it'd be a fascinating statement on both loneliness and love!

Shit, can we hear more about the bad-guy vampires from Italy? I'd really like to know about them, too. How did this social structure form? What other laws and rules do they have?

But all that was squandered. Instead, the source material is reduced to being puddle-shallow and utterly, utterly bland, and I consider it a sad waste of really interesting concepts.

Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
THIS. The whole time I was reading those books I kept thinking "Damn SMeyer, you've got some fascinating characters and ideas here! Why are you using them so terribly?"
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Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

[personal profile] leikomgwtfbbq 2012-10-15 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
I know! So, so wasted. :( It's always sad when you can clearly see flickers of potential around the edges of a shitty, shitty work. If only there'd been more effort and care put into the world-building and the character arcs... *le sigh!*

Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Could have been a psychological horror story about Bella always charging towards what she knows is bad for her, and how she gets her thrills off of engaging what is bad for her.

In a way I actually thought this was where the series was going circa New Moon (motorcycle, jumping off a cliff etc.) and that she'd eventually realize just how fucked up it all was.. but NOEP.

I agree that there was potential though. The Cullens' history, and the Volturi... I was really fascinated by them, but we didn't get any background/lore at all. That disappointed me a lot, lol.
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Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

[personal profile] leikomgwtfbbq 2012-10-15 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, someone could have rewritten New Moon with a fairly minimal amount of effort into a really horrifying and gripping novel. But nope!

Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
You certainly aren't wrong. It'd explain how I got so into the books after I started reading them (the only reason I picked them up was because of vampires; and this was before it was trendy).

And yes, I'd be mildly interested in the Volturi (your so-called "bad-guy vampires from Italy"). They did cover the backgrounds of the Cullens in the books though, did they not?
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Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

[personal profile] leikomgwtfbbq 2012-10-17 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
They didn't go into as much detail as I would have liked, though. I would have liked it more as a series of short stories that lead up to the formation of the Cullen family, with a focus on the emotions and issues they each have.

Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

(Anonymous) 2012-10-16 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
I'm in love with this comment. In a healthy way not a 'watch-you-sleep' way.