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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-14 03:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2112 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
because according to the crazies if your skin is pale then you're just a big mean oppressive meany and it doesn't matter where you or your ancestors came from or what their history entails because the color of your skin is totes more important than the content of your character. Or your ethnic history. But if your skin is pale then we don't need to hear about your history because all it MUST be is oppressing darker skinned people. It's fascinating to see this logic applied to Jews now that we're officially considered white for whatever reason.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm honestly so confused by all of it. I have seven separate ethnicities in my background from all over Europe (but I speak German, so most people assume I'm full blood that until they hear that I have an Italian surname and then they assume I'm full blood that because people are stupid) but, because I'm white, I'm not considered multiethnic whereas someone who's half and half of anything else is? I don't get it.

There is a huge trend in the US to assume that Jewish= Ashkenazi Jew and that Ashkenazi Jews are 100% white. It's really stupid. But what do I know? I'm white, so I must be an ignorant, culture-less oppressor.

Oh, the other thing that annoys me? Anglo. I really hate that term. I'm not English. I'm Scottish, Welsh, and Irish on different sides, but I'm not English.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I find it really hilarious, in a profoundly depressing way, that these people will look at a medium/light skinned Jew and call "ZOMG WHITE PRIVALAG" but will look at a person of Arab descent with the EXACT SAME skin tone (and sometimes with facial features that are indistinguishable from Jewish features) and be all "OPPRESSED POC." Especially when they know literally nothing about either person's life.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, if you're Jewish, this is really not wank you want to start. Let's just say skin color is not a good sign of privilege and leave it at that.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah the fact that Jews don't count as a minority, much less as one that has/still does face oppression is pretty gross. And just goes to show how little SJWs actually understand about... well, anything, to be honest. It's all just teens and pre-teens seeing who can scream the loudest about being offended, though, so at least we are free to ignore them.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
The worst part---well, the two worst parts---are: a) the way some of them will do the "Israeli = Jew = Israeli so all Jews are terrible people" thing and will deny that they're doing it while they do (you can usually tell this type by the way they go "Zionist" this and "Zionist" that, and by how they say "Israeli" as a clear euphemism for "Jew" in their ranting; and b) the way that, since we're now unilaterally "white," any and all complaints about past ill-treatment are considered void and any attempts to use them as an example of how we have NOT been privileged throughout history gets us called whiners and told to get over it. I've actually seen people tell someone who mentioned the Holocaust that they were "overreacting" and that "Jews have been using that as an excuse for way too long." MULTIPLE TIMES IN DIFFERENT PLACES.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I guess they also don't comprehend that Jewish as religion =/= Jewish as ethnicity, right?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I've been told that Jewish isn't an ethnicity?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
It's an ETHNICITY but not a RACE.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
how they say "Israeli" as a clear euphemism for "Jew" in their ranting

Are you sure people aren't honestly ranting about Israelis, though? Because there's a whole mess of reasons not to like or have sympathy for Israelis.

Zionist has been turned into as much a hot button word as Islamist, although neither are particularly harmful or threatening to the world at large when it really comes down to it.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Zionists and Islamists aren't threatening to the world at large?

...really?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
NA

I suppose it depends on how you define the word? I can imagine people who might call themselves those things who wouldn't be threatening to the world at large?

...kind of like 'Brony'...

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh believe me you can TELL with these people. Also, I take issue with the idea that every Israeli citizen (well, let's be honest here and say Every Jewish Israeli citizen, because a lot of people like to conveniently forget that there are other ethnicities living there as citizens) is an evil person who deserves bad things.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that's pretty much any group. There are some bad, some good, and some neutral. You've just got to roll with it. /American who is way too used to the assumption that she is an illiterate, morbidly obese, geographically-challenged, racist oppressor.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-25 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
jews... are a minority? I've never come across anyone who disagrees with that??????? you people can't keep strawmanning ~SJWs~ without providing some fucking evidence, rather than sensationalism.