[ SECRET POST #2112 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2112 ⌋

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Comments

[kallanda_lee]

It depends on where you live. In a lot of Europe you probably would be considered multi ethnic if your Italian/German/Romanian. I just think the whole American melting pot sort of skewed the perception on that.

[(Anonymous)]

Which is why I'm confused how a Japanese/Chinese/Thai person can be considered multiethnic in the US but a white person of multiple ethnicities cannot.

[kryss_labryn]

I am totally pulling this out of my ass, but I'd suuuuspect that it goes back to colonial times, where you had a bunch of Europeans of different ethnicities on the one hand, and a bunch of Native American locals of various ethnicities on the other. So you had these two groups who, yes, each were actually of different ethicities, but the over-riding group of "us" and "them" were the aboriginals on the one hand, and the European settlers on the other. And when the locals were hostile, it didn't matter if the white guy was Dutch or German or English or Scottish or what; they were white and the other guys were not. So things got sorted very much along the lines of skin colour.

And then, for the longest time, what you mostly had was white people in positions of power over non-whites, who would mostly have been either aboriginals or slaves, so that white/non-white thing was perpetuated. And so (unless you were Irish at the turn of the 19th century, or Italian, depending on where you lived) it didn't matter whether you were half English and half German (as I am); you were white and from that place over there, Europe.

So as soon as you define "ethnic" as a synonym for "not-white", then you get this thing where if you're of multiple not-white extractions, then you're multi-ethnic, but if you're of multi-European extractions, then you're still European and white and that's it.

Which makes me wonder why that hypothetical person who is Japanese/Chinese/Thai isn't just considered "Asian", especially in North America, where I think most of us aren't really familiar with any tensions between those countries (which might result in the person being considered more "multi-ethnic" if they were in one of those particular countries) and any differences in the cultures mostly break down to "Do we want Chinese, Thai, or sushi for dinner?"

May I say, though, that I think it's awesome that most of the grocery stores I've seen here in Canada with an "Ethnic" food section include German and English sections as well as the Chinese, Japanese, East Indian, and whatever else sections.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, exactly. In most parts of Europe I've visitted people don't really think by "race" as americans seem to do and more by nationality. Which makes sense.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah... especially in Germany, "race" is a very, very bad word.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm guessing you're making a joke and don't have a real concept of the current German understanding? The actual word race may not be used much, but black, white, and brown are commonly used terms, as is Turk.

[(Anonymous)]

I have a perfect understanding of the word. Maybe you don't? As far as I'm aware, Rasse isn't a good word to throw around - Rassenlehre is something that's really a bit outdated, wouldn't you think? Plus, it's incorrect. I never said anything about the other words you mentioned. And even though black and white are used (brown, I rarely, if ever, hear), Turk is something altogether different, considering that would be an ethnicity and not a "race".