[ SECRET POST #2112 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2112 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[intrigueing]

And since I ship them, I'd be pretty pleased if Spock and Uhura broke up, but does this really need to be a secret? It's pretty common to want your pairing to be as close to canon as it can be

I actually...don't understand this at all. If there's absolutely no hope for your OTP to become canon, why would you ever want to destroy the pleasure of people who ship a conflicting canon couples by breaking them up and ruining the ship for a whole lot of other fans -- just so you don't have to go through the process of writing a breakup scene or slightly AU-ifying your doomed OTP's fic? I understand it if you think the couple actually has a prayer of being canon, but if it doesn't...why? Why on earth would you want to do that?

I agree that it's really irritating that m/m couples never become canon, but I've seen this attitude with people who ship obscure het couples who will never become canon, and it completely, utterly baffles me. Unless you would've disliked the pairing in question even completely separate from the fact that it conflicts with your OTP (because you think the characters are terrible together/it's problematic/etc), but wanting to break up a perfectly fine canon couple that lots of people ship even though the endgame for that scenario is "both characters are alone and less happy than they used to be, all their fans are pissed, and your OTP is still not canon and not going to be canon"? I just...I don't understand why anyone would wish for that.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[sarnath]

Well, as long as the two people aren't involved with anyone else in canon it's still technically possible that they'll get together at some point even if it doesn't actually happens in canon. And hey, just because it's not a realistic hope doesn't mean we can't have it! "Destroying the pleasure" is a bit dramatic, don't you think? I think people can handle me not thinking their pairing should be canon. Just as I can handle their opinion that my pairing shoulndn't be canon...

And it's shipping; if one really loves a couple, how fun is it to see one or both of them involved with someone else?

Unless you would've disliked the pairing in question even completely separate from the fact that it conflicts with your OTP

Actually, I do this as well; I thought S/U was a terrible idea for several reasons.

[intrigueing]

When I said "destroying the pleasure", I meant having that canon couple break up in canon. That destroys the pleasure of the shippers of the canon couple, while it barely does anything to enhance your pleasure, because your couple won't become canon, and the breakup doesn't bring it any closer to canon. I think it's kinda selfish.

If you think S/U is a bad couple all on its own, then yes THAT's a good reason to want them to break up in canon, but you didn't mention that in your comment so I didn't know.

[sarnath]

Hey, my pleasure is in a constant state of destruction by not having K/S being canon, you know!

But yeah, I prefer the characters I like to pair up being uninvolved in canon if they can't be with each other even if other people ship them with their current canon love interest. I don't even think it's that horrible to feel this way!

I had problems with how S/U was executed (timing, Spock's characterisation, how Uhura's screentime was used), but I don't see any inherent problems with the pairing aside from that. Aside from it not being the one I want, of course...

[dirac]

Also, when a canon-couple like that breaks up, there's a good chance that there won't be much rejoicing on behalf of your OTP because then you have to put up with "will they get back together or won't they??!" drama. Either way, you're getting your daily reminder that your ship isn't happening.

[(Anonymous)]

+1,
precisely.

[(Anonymous)]

I actually...don't understand this at all. If there's absolutely no hope for your OTP to become canon, why would you ever want to destroy the pleasure of people who ship a conflicting canon couples by breaking them up and ruining the ship for a whole lot of other fans

maybe you already answered you own question here or maybe some slash fans are just a bit insecure and they think that if the writers don't destroy the canon couple people won't take their fanon slash couple seriously. It's not like we ever got a valid canon alternative to slash for those characters, so it even make sense if you think about it that fans may be scared that the het pair will get more popular.
Though, I don't think that some fans (possibly the majority of trek fans that worship the K/S friendship) will take slash seriously anyway, regardless if S/U or any other couple is made or break up.