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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-16 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2114 ]


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Re: It's like no one actually ever saw the Disney films

(Anonymous) 2012-10-16 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Or, would you rather tell me that OH NO Phillip kissed her without consent Disney is saying rape is okay!

This is the only one I'm going to comment on, because it really stuck out for me.

As far as goes the Disney adaptation, that interpretation doesn't work. Where I think it comes from, however, is the fact that in the original story, she does get raped (although by the king rather than by the prince). Even worse, the rape gets her pregnant, and she gives birth to twins while still fucking asleep.

For obvious reasons, that got bit got changed for the movie. But people who know the original story might be carrying their feelings of disgust over with them.
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Re: It's like no one actually ever saw the Disney films

[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-10-17 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Actually I think that bit got changed in one of the six kajillion adaptations and variations and translations of that story, which also (afaik) doesn't have an original form, not really, because fairy tales, for the most part, arise from casual stories that get told by word of mouth only and passed around from person to person and fucked with and adapted and changed a whole lot before Wilhelm and Jacob Grimm or whoever heard it and wrote it down, sans rape, a couple centuries ago.

Veeeeerry few people would have heard the rape-ified version of the story before being exposed to the movie. Trust me.

Re: It's like no one actually ever saw the Disney films

(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, this. I was very interested in fairy tales when I was younger and most adaptations took that part out (though they often left the blinding in). The first time I read about it was in a huge fairy-tale encyclopedia thing years later. It wasn't even the worst one out of the bunch lol.
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Re: It's like no one actually ever saw the Disney films

[personal profile] inkdust 2012-10-17 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, we read the "original" Grimms in German, and nope, no rape. I think people would consider those to be almost as close to original as it's possible to get nowadays.
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Re: It's like no one actually ever saw the Disney films

[personal profile] tasogare_n_hime 2012-10-17 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I can see where it would come from but I really hate things like that. it really ignores so much of the history of fairy tales. There were hundreds of adaptations of a lot of classic fairy tales Disney used long before Disney used them. If I remember right, Disney's Sleeping Beauty wasn't based on Sun, Moon, and Taila, but a ballet adaptation of La Belle au bois dormant, by Charles Perrault. I think the movie actually used some music from the ballet.