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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-16 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2114 ]


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Re: Punishing kids (trigger warning)

(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Corporal punishment is physical punishment, hitting / spanking / caning. Non-corporal punishment does not involve pain.

I think the thing that people are objecting to is the idea that there's a natural link between "Caring about your child's education and wanting them to succeed and take things seriously" and "hitting your kids." You seem to be saying, essentially, that Western parents don't hit their kids because they don't care about their kids' education and just want their kids to be entertained, whereas Asian parents do hit their parents because they care about their education - in other words, that Western parents don't hit their kids because they don't care about them and just want to let them watch TV all day. Can you see why that would be pretty anger-inducing to some people?

You can care about your kids' education and take that shit seriously without hitting them; conversely, you can take it lightly and be a shitty parent and hit your kids. "Hitting your kids" as a parenting strategy does not have a 1:1 match with "taking education seriously". My parents never let me watch TV; they placed enormous stress on doing homework, studying, doing well, and being respectful and hard-working. They never once hit me. You know? It's that kind of overgeneralization that's making people get a little weird.
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Re: Punishing kids (trigger warning)

[personal profile] al28894 2012-10-17 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
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Huh. To be honest, I never actually thought of that before.

At the risk of sounding like a complete idiot, I'm kinda imagining you arguing with my father, the disiplinary teacher of my school and my religious studies teacher about your views.

Well, if I were completely honest, not all parents around here use physical punishment to their children. But the idea of using it as a deterrent to lazy schoolwork has been around for so long that most would use some form of it.

Re: Punishing kids (trigger warning)

(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Haha. I'm sure that would be a fun conversation. Especially the religious dimension - I went to a Catholic school, and when I heard stories from people who went there when I was growing up, they did use corporal punishment, stopped maybe 25 or 30 years before I went there, and lord am I glad they did stop. But they still did a damn fine job of making sure that no one screwed around, and I don't think they would have screwed around less if we had been hit.

People took learning seriously (another thing I just remembered: my parents didn't let me have video games till I was probably 12 or 13, and then it was limited to only before noon on Saturday morning). It's just that you really don't need to hit kids to have discipline.