[ SECRET POST #2117 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2117 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Slenderman/Cthulu]


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07. http://i.imgur.com/AAVIZ.jpg
[Bo Sinclair / House of Wax (2005); image contains possibly-triggery scars, no self-harm stuff in the text though]


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[Wil Wheaton]


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[Guardians of the Galaxy]


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[The King of Fighters: KYO manga and game]


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[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]















14. [SPOILERS for Star Trek Voyager: The Eternal Tide]



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15. [SPOILERS for Damages]



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16. [SPOILERS for Frankenweenie]



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17. [SPOILERS for Big Brother 14]



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18. [SPOILERS for Resident Evil 6]



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[ ----- TRIGGERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]

















19. [WARNING for suicide]

[The Walking Dead]


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20. [WARNING for incest]

[A Night at the Roxbury]


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21. [WARNING for child abuse]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #302.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I actually remember seeing a secret by a guy who felt barely-tolerated in female-dominated fandom spaces because he was a guy and not-tolerated in male-dominated fandom spaces because he, what was it, liked slash? Failed to adhere to macho rules of behavior? I don't know.

I don't remember if I read any of the comments -- this was shortly after I discovered the comm and I was wandering back in time and often just reading the secrets.

I am reasonably confident that the response in this particular community would be mixed-to-agreeing-with-main-point-of-secret. F!S doesn't have much patience with the idea of safe spaces. There will be people pointing out bad behavior of male-dominated communities, but probably no one saying it's appropriate to exclude all males.

Mind, if OP ran across even one such person who felt obliged to respond to every single dissenting opinion, I can see how it could create the impression the community agrees with that person.

[forgottenjester]

Really? How... interesting, for lack of a better word. I have come across the exact opposite where men were worshiped if they liked slash, especially if they wrote it. Possibly because it was seen as more "legitimate" but I can only guess.

If those comments turned out to be fully in support of condemning men, as in "You don't belong there. Stop complaining." then I will have to make an apology to the OP. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

I agree with your assessment of F!S. I think we'd be more mild and agreeing. That isn't to say there wouldn't be dissenting opinions. I think the most we've ever come together on an opinion was to call someone who screwed over a needy kid on Christmas a douche. And even then I think there were two or three people defending the Secret's OP.

This is very true. If this is the case I hope they find more variety in their future fandom outings.

[(Anonymous)]

It was the male-dominated spaces which may have objected to the slash, if I'm remembering the thing correctly.

[forgottenjester]

Oh. That puts a whole new spin on it. So it was men saying a gay man, or at least a man who liked slash, was unwelcome in their community? In essence, men oppressing men?

[(Anonymous)]

Two parts -- male-dominated fandom excluding a man for liking slash or somehow not meeting their standards of machoness, and female-dominated fandom barely-tolerating him because he's a guy.

[forgottenjester]

Wow, it really sucks to be that guy. Hopefully he got a few recs for fandom spaces that would accept him, at the very least.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

If you're interested, I think that the secret anon was referring to is here:

http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/601577.html

Secret #20.

[forgottenjester]

Thank you, anon.

I'm gonna go read it now.

[forgottenjester]

Read it.

Very fucking sad right now.

At times like these I wish I drank alcohol.

Mmm, Edit: Ah yes, I am a woman of my word. I am sorry I didn't take you seriously at first OP.

Everyone was just being an asshole to everyone.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, because gay men are treated special in slash fandom, sometimes under the idea that what they write is inherently closer to reality.

You really need to try stepping out of your skewed perception before you tell people they're wrong. You're operating under a very narrow focus and basically telling people they're wrong when they don't share that focus.

[forgottenjester]

Yes, because gay men are treated special in slash fandom, sometimes under the idea that what they write is inherently closer to reality.

There are many ways gay men are treated in fandom. Normally not nicely, as far as I can tell. What I said was a couple of anecdotal stories I have. So... I'm not really sure what you're saying here.

I haven't said anyone was wrong yet. Merely that I hadn't experienced that. I also accepted this person's story. My reaction was, "Wow, that happened. This is what happened to me. Let's compare and accept both as true."

What you are calling narrow mindedness is me learning and stepping out. So thanks for that.

I'm so narrow minded but you seem to be picking and choosing what I say and not actually reading my entire message. So again, maybe you should reread what I wrote?