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⌈ Secret Post #2120 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I really don't get the criticisms, because it's basically Finding Nemo with people instead of fish and a female lead. To me, all the complaints boiled down to how hard it is to connect to a film with too much vagina in it.

[truxillogical]

Y'know, I never made the Finding Nemo connection, but you're very right.

Finding Nemo did feel like it had a bit more to it, though. Maybe that was because it was a longer journey with more short scenes to it. "A Boy And His Dad"=for everyone. "A Girl And Her Mother"=for girls.

[(Anonymous)]

La Luna was a short and it was cheered on for being a 'great Father/Son story'. I think that's pretty telling, you know?

[(Anonymous)]

I wish they made the little boy a girl tbh

[(Anonymous)]

At least for me, I liked Finding Nemo because it was bright, colorful, and I liked the humor in it. I didn't like the parts of Brave I skimmed through because at this point, I've seen a lot of CG, and the semi-realistic looks don't grab my attention like Finding Nemo or Monster Inc. did back in the days when CG was fairly new(ish). Brave felt less funny, and although I love that the characters have accents, it's also difficult for me to identify with the main lead because she sounded so different. Personal issues, I know, but that's enough to make the movie less enjoyable for me.

[gabzillaz]

To me, all the complaints boiled down to how hard it is to connect to a film with too much vagina in it.

Oh please.

Personally, I felt Nemo was... bigger. It truly felt like an epic journey. Brave didn't.

[sockpants]

Yeah. This.

Brave was OK, but Finding Nemo is still one of my favorite movies of all time. The characters in Finding Nemo seem to develop as the movie goes along effortlessly. To me, Brave felt like the filmmakers were going, "OK so how can we tell the viewers that Merida and her mother are growing?"

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah that's pretty much what I see too

girl??? have personality??? and problems??? girl have relationship with other girl??? me no understand girl problem!!!

[(Anonymous)]

...But the only thing Finding Nemo and Brave have in common is that... They're both about a parent and child.

Finding Nemo was about a paranoid father whose worst fear was almost realized because he was wrong and his son was right, and in his paranoia, he was suffocating his son. But that's just it--Nemo WAS right. He COULD do things. Marlin just didn't want to lose him and so was afraid of ever letting go.

Elinor, meanwhile, isn't. she just doesn't value Merida's skills because they're not what she would need as Queen. And she says it herself--she does know Merida can care for herself. She's just not sure Merida is willing to pay the price for the freedom she wants. And when you watch it, Merida ISN'T at first. Because she pins it all on her mom--all the problems, all the pressure. When, no, it isn't that simple. Merida is young and, most of all, she is WRONG. Her mother is trying to keep a very delicate peace with no way she can see out of it. It takes Merida, instructed by her mother, making a speech and reminding the clans of their bonds and how they fought together for the freedom they currently have to open the way to her own freedom--something the sons supported, and thus got their dads to support.

But really, what it comes down to is: both parents and children are flawed and neither of them were entirely right or wrong. Unlike Finding Nemo, which was more focused on Marlin's journey.

[(Anonymous)]

Um no. I don't know what complaints you've been reading but those are not the problems I have with the movie. I was very excited for Brave because I wanted a Pixar movie with a female lead very badly.

And while the movie wasn't full on horrible, it did have a ton of storytelling problems in it. In addition to a director change, Pixar apparently really struggled with this film and even those in the studio weren't all too happy with the final product.

[sockpants]

No.

In Finding Nemo, the characters just seemed to develop along with the storyline. In Brave, at least to me, the storyline seemed really forced into telling you "OK so Merida and her mom are changing. SEE HOW MUCH THEY'RE CHANGING!" It's not about "too much vagina," it's a problem with the storytelling- show, don't tell.

I mean, I didn't exactly dislike Brave, I just think it really fell short of Pixar's usual standards.