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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-22 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2120 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-10-22 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
there's also the assumption that all superpowers are IN ONE GENE, which is ridiculous. i'm pretty sure the gene for a 'superhuman' to be able to fly vs be invisible vs telepathy would be in different parts of the chromosomes. In reality there would need to be multiple cures e.g. how there is no such thing a single cure for cancer because cancer is one type of illness, it is a whole family of diseases.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-22 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Shh, movie/comic logic.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-23 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Yeah, I always viewed the X-factor gene as sort of the first domino in a sequence and, therefore, making the mutation pretty much unique to each individual. Seems not that smart to go poking at a random process. Personally I suspect a few months to a year down the line, all these 'cured' mutants were going to find themselves either manifesting new abilities entirely or possibly mutating out of control to the point of possibly dying.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-10-23 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
So what you're saying is that every person is like a different size/colored/shaped light bulb and the x-gene is like a light switch?

In that the light bulbs are the person's collection of genes. Non-mutants don't have the powers because they don't have a switch to turn them on.

Am I getting this right?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-23 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
I read it more as "everyone has unique, little fuckups in their gene sequence and the X-factor gene activates those".
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-10-23 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't that the same thing, kinda?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-23 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
well what a gene mutation can do is activate or cause a gene to be expressed more but it is very hard for ONE SINGLE GENE MUTATION to cause all mutant powers. After all expression is not only determined by the gene itself but how much it is expressed/processed (co-dominance vs. dominant gene vs half expression, etc)

Most likely all mutants having telepathy will have their 'mutant gene' in the same/similar place e.g. xavier, jean grey, emma frost.

Interesting concept to 'unlock' hidden human potential is actually explored in Fringe (TV) where a biochemist in Harvard tries to get his human test subjects to express otherwise dormant genes, and I think that was what the person above was getting at.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-10-23 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I know, that's why I was stretching there and saying it was a combination of genes that created the unique power for the person and the x-gene was just the activating force.

Even that seems like shaky reasoning to me but I let it slide because they keep saying it's only one gene.

So I think we're saying the same thing and my analogy was just not good.

Interesting. How did that go?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-23 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
I mean it could well be a new mutation (I'm sure some cases they are) but it's hard to see such a huge population of mutants 'out of nowhere' because of one gene.
basically genetics is more complicated that what meets the eye and yeahhh. Although looking at individual cases, you can make the argument as to how they would have gotten their power.

Ha, for Fringe, not well for most because most test subjects were children so many exhibited their 'enhanced genes' after puberty and by the research was shut down. so the Fringe Division is the FBI thingy to deal with such biochemical mishaps (some due to the experiments, some not). Lots of grisly deaths, kind of a more science approach to the x-files
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-10-23 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, I see. Yeah, I get that. I agree.

Oh wow, sucks to be those kids.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-24 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Late to the game, I know, but theoretically, if the mutation effects one of the genes that make sure other mutations are repaired, all kinds of changes in lots of different genes could arise from that.

That doesn't change the fact that it would most likely end up as the "superpower" to develop all kinds of fun cancer... :/
I'm sure almost anyone would love to get rid of that particular "superpower"...

(Anonymous) 2012-10-24 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
and that's the basis of how cancers actually (if i remember correctly, one of the breast cancer gene mutation does that). cancer is not only the diseases of proliferating cells but also constantly turning on genes for duplication and switching off 'cell death'.

so in some odd fashion, cancer can be seen as a 'superpower'...
it's actually very interesting to see how deadpool, who has terminal cancer deal with having a healing factor as 'superpower mutation' (totes did a paper on this too)