[ SECRET POST #2120 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2120 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

06. http://i.imgur.com/gnlO5.jpg

[elephantinegrace]

Let's not forget about required secondary powers, like the ability to keep your organs in your body when you can run at the speed of light.

Seriously, superpowers are only cool because we don't have them. It's like bipolar disorder; sure, those with BPD are more creative, but they're also more likely to kill themselves, and there's medication that one should definitely take!

[(Anonymous)]

If you do not suffer from a severe form of BPD yourself, kindly shut the fuck up. Suicide is only at 20% of bipolar sufferers, and medication is a highly contentious area for those with mental health issues.

[(Anonymous)]

No, it's nothing like bipolar disorder. There is no cure for bipolar disorder, it takes an average of ten years for a person to be diagnosed, medication helps only to suppress symptoms, and there is no great benefit from being bipolar, because bipolar doesn't make you creative.

[(Anonymous)]

Bipolar Disorder /= BPD

BPD = Borderline Personality Disorder

[(Anonymous)]

I know plenty of other people have said this but...no. Having any mental disorder doesn't make you more creative. Bipolar, or any other mental disorder, isn't some magic creativity generator. Have there been creative people who've had it? Yes, the same with various other mental disorders, and people who have no mental disorder at all.

I know you've said 'My girlfriend said it, and she has it so!' but the thing is? She can have it and still be wrong about it making someone more creative.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, people seem awful eager to display their sore rear ends over this one.

Way I see your comment it was "Mutant powers are like being bipolar because everyone thinks it's cool but they don't have to live with the downsides"

To which people respond with 'HOW DARE YOU! Bipolar disorder is not cool you don't know what you're talking about because you don't have to live with the downside!'

And then there are the people trying to argue that it doesn't increase the liklyhood of a suicide attempt? What are they trying to say there? 'You're wrong about the downside, Bipolar really is as great as eveyone who doesn't have it thinks it is?'

[queensbane]

That is not how bipolar works and also go fall in a hole. Filled with leeches.

[(Anonymous)]

I was right with you 'till the last sentence, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

What, no one's allowed to want to be normal? Who are you to say that?

[(Anonymous)]

For real. Not everyone who's radioactive enough to melt furniture WANTS to kill people.

THIS IS YOU THIS IS HOW BIGOTED YOU SOUND

[(Anonymous)]

I think the existence of a cure for non-heterosexuality is an objectively good thing. Even in a perfectly accepting world, some orientations would be life-ruiners. Many of the others are useless baggage that prevents successful happiness in any career outside "prostitute"

It's not wrong to want to be normal.

[truxillogical]

Yeah, I kind of hated Storm (all throughout the movie. I mean) yelling at Rogue that she didn't need a cure and nothing was wrong with her.

The X-gene isn't a perfect allegory for "being different." IRL, being born "different" may make your life more challenging, but isn't inherently a bad thing.

But in the Marvel Universe, being born with the X-gene meant Rogue could never physically touch another human being without potentially killing them and driving herself mad. That is...a perfectly legitimate thing to not want.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd give just about anything to be "normal" - it'd make life a lot easier, for one.

[(Anonymous)]

No, it's not. It's when you force people to change or lock children in cells to extract their gene sequence that things get bad.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, some of the powers would seriously wreck your life, like the barely controllable laser eyes thing.

[kathkin]

I don't have a problem with the idea of a mutant cure on its own terms and personally if I were Rogue I'd have made the same call because that's a truly sucky power to have - plus I like that she didn't seem to have any intention of divorcing herself from the rest of the mutants/mutant culture.

I think the problem is that being a mutant has generally been used as an allegory for being part of a real-world oppressed group - usually queer people - and the existence of a cure either breaks the allegory (because there's no cure for being queer irl) or makes it horribly offensive (potentially insinuating that there should be a cure for being queer irl).

It's the same issue as in S6 of Buffy. Want to use magic as a metaphor for addictive drugs? Okay. Want to use magic as a metaphor for being gay? Okay. But you can't do both because then you are effectively saying being gay is a destruction addiction.

[(Anonymous)]

there's also the assumption that all superpowers are IN ONE GENE, which is ridiculous. i'm pretty sure the gene for a 'superhuman' to be able to fly vs be invisible vs telepathy would be in different parts of the chromosomes. In reality there would need to be multiple cures e.g. how there is no such thing a single cure for cancer because cancer is one type of illness, it is a whole family of diseases.

[visp]

If you're going to start trying to put logic into those comics, you can start with how you would ever persuade people to dress like that in public.

[forgottenjester]

I half-agreed with you until that last sentence.

Let me explain.

I half agree because if we stay in the comics' world, what you say makes sense. Some of those powers are very self-destructive and dangerous. If the person chose to live without them it would be great for them to have that option.

On the other hand, mutants have always been a metaphor for real life minorities. Thus, a "cure" sounds really fucking racist/homophobic/etc. when you extend the metaphor.

Also, I object to the way you use the term normal, thus implying mutants are abnormal, as in wrong somehow. It is not mutants who should become normal but the term normal should change to include mutants. I feel this way mostly because if the previously mentioned metaphor.

So... yeah.

[maverickz3r0]

It should be an option, yes.

The point where I would've started thinking Magneto had a good idea or two was when they started fucking weaponizing it. Regardless of how blithely the X-Men used it, I don't think I'd be comfortable with a government having that sort of weapon. Comes a little close to biological warfare.

EDIT: Mind, that's a moot point, as Magneto's bit at the end showed it was a suppressant more than a cure.

[(Anonymous)]

And the likelihood of such a cure being applied only on a voluntary and non-coercive basis is...?

[rbhudson]

You gotta remember what it symbolizes, though

[stainless]

Okay, so you're not talking about the real world, you're talking about fictional people whose "powers" are not all fun and awesomeity...

...but honestly, I don't think wanting to "be normal" is wise. The only "making yourself normal" that I can really reliably imagine basically amounts to trying not to be yourself. And I hate to be mean, OP, but the only people I can think of who do that are insecure and unhappy and their self-suppression doesn't save them.

I say this not to elevate myself above others but to speak as someone who used to be like that myself.

[(Anonymous)]

I see both sides. On the one hand, yeah, someone with Rogue's power would want to get rid of it.
What bothered me was how the government was weaponizing it. Would it have been used as a punishment for mutant criminals, in a year or two? That's a pretty horrifying thought to me, that someone who used their power to commit a crime, any crime, not just the big political terrorism acts, something like shoplifting or something, could have their power forcibly taken away because the government deems mutants "too dangerous."

Another thing was the imagery of an abortion clinic. Protestors with signs screaming at people waiting to go into the center and telling them not to do it ... that made me incredibly uncomfortable. It's their body, let them do with it what they want! And certainly don't firebomb the center! *shudders*

Finally, in the beginning of X3 we see Angel almost get the "cure," and it's apparent that he 1) doesn't want it and 2) his dad is right there pressuring him. There's too much leeway for abuse of the system there. Were parents with much younger children taking their kids in for "a shot to make it all better" also? Is that legal? Morally right?