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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-24 06:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #2122 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2122 ⌋

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TB

[personal profile] lentils 2012-10-25 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
That would've been awesome, but personally I also think it's pretty cool that they're doing a show with male-female leads that appears to be going to stay entirely platonic. On top of that, I remember reading something about how they made Watson a woman in this series specifically to deal with Holmes' sexism, which is (as I understand, haven't gotten to reading most of the original stories yet, sorry!) an element of his character in the original canon. They've already had him say a bunch of awful things to her and she refuses to take any of his shit, and he's actually apologized to her about it and tried to improve which is great. So while I would like to see something with a female Holmes and Watson, I think this show is plenty "progressive" in a different way.

Incidentally, it's not stellar writing-wise, but if you're interested in a crime show with a female cop pairing you could check out Beauty and the Beast. I watched the pilot because I just like Kristin Kreuk but it surprised me with how much I enjoyed her character's friendship and banter with her partner Nina. I mean, the "beast" element of the story is boring as hell, IMO, but to me it's worth it for the lady cop partners. :D
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Re: TB

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-10-25 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
They've already had him say a bunch of awful things to her and she refuses to take any of his shit, and he's actually apologized to her about it and tried to improve which is great.

Wait... really? I actually may watch this show if this happens. That's cool.
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Re: TB

[personal profile] lentils 2012-10-25 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
Yes! Like in the most recent episode (1x03) he basically tells her "oh you don't have to actually talk to me when I talk out loud, talking helps me think things through, basically you are just a brick wall which I can bounce my ideas off of" and then later he asks her a question and she's like "sorry, were you talking to me? I thought I was just a sounding board" and it was great. (That's not word-for-word, of course, it was more awesomely said in the actual episode, but you get the idea.) And then in an earlier episode she says "I made coffee" and he holds out his mug expecting her to pour it for him, and she just kind of rolls her eyes and says "It's over here when you want it." And he straight-up apologizes to her in the pilot for treating her like a maid or something (I can't remember the exact context but it happened and it was glorious). So yeah, it's pretty great. :D
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Re: TB

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-10-25 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
Oh wow! Thanks for giving me the details. I really will have to check it out.
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Re: TB

[personal profile] lentils 2012-10-25 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
I hope you enjoy it! The cases aren't anything mindblowing, but I'm enjoying what they're doing with Holmes and Watson so much that it doesn't matter.
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Re: TB

[personal profile] insolentwitch 2012-10-25 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
I'm loving Nina, she seems clever, supportive, funny and tough. I hope that she gets even more screen time as the show goes continues.

Re: TB

(Anonymous) 2012-10-25 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
an element of his character in the original canon

Iirc, it was. Though you could make an argument that it was a product of his time [the victorean era was not known for it's regard for women]. Though it does annoy me a little with how some people I've run across like to cite Addler as 'proof' he wasn't really sexist, since that just completely ignores the fact that the only reason he had any regard for her was *after* she managed to out smart him.