[ SECRET POST #2125 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2125 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

18. http://i.imgur.com/1BH4N.png

[(Anonymous)]

For pity's sake, move on already.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

It's not like this keeps me awake at night or anything. :P It just makes me sad, is all.

[(Anonymous)]

I remember when I saw some scans for BW2's World Tournament. I mistook one of the opponent sprites for Brendan from RSE. Then I figured out who it actually was and made myself sad because a tourney against all the old protags would have been neat as heck.

Anyways OP, there are always patches and romhacks! I'm playing as Kris in HGSS right now, bwahaha. And when I get a flashcart for my GBC, I'll probably try out Pokemon Prism.

[illiadandoddity]

I'm still confused as to why people are so convinced Kris and Lyra are different characters... Lyra is clearly just an updated design of of the female!PC from Crystal. Look at them: Lyra/Kris

[(Anonymous)]

This. I thought Lyra was Kris too, just newer art.

[illiadandoddity]

No one seems to think the male PC is a new character just because he got an updated outfit and an official name instead of a fan nickname. Is the slightly different hair color and larger stupid hat REALLY indicative of a totally new character?

OP

[(Anonymous)]

I know people say that, but I really don't see it. If I were being generous, I'd say that Lyra's design was inspired by Kris's. The only real similarity is... they both have pigtails? Compare with Ethan, who is much more clearly an updated Gold.

Also, this quote from the Lyra article you linked: " Some fans assume that Kris and Lyra are one and the same. Takao Unno revealed in an interview that he designed Lyra from scratch. "

Re: OP

[illiadandoddity]

Yeah, I'm gonna call bullshit on that and guess he wanted to pretend he was being more original that he was. They look exactly the same, aside from clothing and hair color. Lyra's a redesign.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Aside from clothing and hair color? That's kind of most of what you have to go on with a Pokémon character. But if we do disregard clothing and hair color, the only thing left to compare is hairstyle, and even that's different. They do both have pigtails, yes, but in very different styles.

Re: OP

[illiadandoddity]

Then shall we compare some other characters who have pigtails? Female ace trainers in gen V, belles, preschoolers... All of these have pigtails, but in quite different styles than Lyra and Kris, who both have thin pigtails which flip forward.

I still think Lyra's meant to be a redesign. (Of course, I don't get being emotionally attached to the PC at all. They have literally no personality other than what you ascribe to them while playing.)

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

...I'm not seeing it at all.

[(Anonymous)]

...Dude, the only thing they have in common is PIGTAILS. Everything else is different. That isn't a fucking redesign, that's just happening to have one single physical trait in common. By that logic, Ethan is a redesign of Red because they both have hats and jackets!

[illiadandoddity]

Please see my previous response to the OP.

[masu_trout]

I know what you mean, anon! I mean, I honestly really like Lyra, but Kris was the first time I got to play as a girl in a video game, so she kinda has a special place in my heart. I wish my Crystal cartridge's battery hadn't died. :(

[(Anonymous)]

Eh. I know how you feel...I still hope Misty will make a cameo in the newer shows :(

[streetcake]

If they do bring her back they better change her outfit, it's hideous. Petty reasoning, but I don't care it bothers me too much.

[(Anonymous)]

Well in the Pokemon Special manga Kris still exists as Kris, the only difference is in the HGSS arc she wears Lyra's outfit. You could always get your fix through that.

[forgottenjester]

I don't mind if they don't but she is my favorite.

Then again, I base my opinion of Pokémon trainers on their clothes. The moment there is a female PC with actual pants they will become my new favorite.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah as much as I like Lyra's design, I still can't figure out why they decided to make a new female PC from scratch when they already had one. Heck, Leaf's design was based on a doodle for when they had originally wanted to program a female PC in for Red/Blue/Green.

[(Anonymous)]

OP, just wanted to say that I am with you the whole nine yards here. Kris was fantastic and I loved her PokeSpe characterization especially. The fandom, at least, hasn't forgotten about her. :)

[otakugal15]

I see Blue was actually the first. They just didn't have the resources at the time to include her.

*shrug*

I can't say I feel the same OP. I never played Crystal and I like Leaf and Kotone more.

But sorry you feel that way. It does suck. :/

[(Anonymous)]

I know how you feel, OP. I know it's pretty ridiculous to still be hung up on this, but Kris was the first female character I ever played in any video game, and I thought she was so badass, being a cool pokemon trainer. It was pretty inspiring for me as a little kid! Like an above anon said there exists patches and hacks to get Kris in HGSS, and every now and then I still play those when I'm feeling down.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, same

of course I'm also an old fogey who barely pays attention to new pokemon things, so...

[silverau]

Late to the party, but yes!! I'm so glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.

If they ever gave Kris a cameo of some sort in the games it would make my life.